Now requiring payment upfront when making offers???

[ethanweisinger]

Since when? Is this recent? I never had to do this before, like a month or two back.  And thanks GOD I didn't fall for this new eBay scam. What POS is eBay now days man 😞 What else is eBay going to do to run customers away????

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Buying/Requiring-payment-upfront-when-making-offers/td-p/32690693/page...

[ms.rodriguez*]

Your phone carrier, your cable company, your mortgage company, your car insurance company, any bank that gave you a loan , etc. all have your information. If you are NOT willing to pay then do not make an offer.  The only problem that I see with this program is if the buyer wants to make an offer on 2 or more items and wants combined shipping.  For those situations, you need to contact the seller and tell him which items you like and perhaps tell them too your offer and your zipcode and the fact that you need to know if they will accept your offer and what will the shipping cost be to your zipcode.  

This is an excellent program that needs to be restructured to allow for multiple offers from the same buyer and perhaps allow the buyer to put the zipcode too in the offer. 

As for how many people encounter non-payers, it's in the millions every month.    Some categories have more non-payers than others.  I get about 1 a month on my 2 seller accounts. I do not go crazy if they do not pay.   I just add them to my best buddy list and they will get an unpaid strike.

[ms.rodriguez*]

Yes, I can see where that might be a problem from someone that does not have a big bank account or their credit card on file is almost near the maximum limit.  Perhaps those are the types of buyers that should not be making an offers until they get more funds.    You can always email the seller and see if they will take it off for you and if you need a few extra days to pay, you can let them know too.  I do not require immediate payment but I have gotten emails where a buyer needs to wait until their next paycheck inorder to pay.  I usually do accomodate them if they have been on ebay a long time and have tons of recent feedbacks.

[discountdenimdeals]

#1. You get your money back

#2 Sellers can only cancel orders due to reasons listed in a drop down menu. We can't 'make up reasons' to cancel an order. 

#3 I've had neg and neutral FB removed due to the buyer stating the item didn't work. And every time it was because THEY ordered the wrong part.

#4 Providing fake tracking is also impossible. When your order is processed, ebay automatically sends the buyer the tracking number provided by the SHIPPING COMPANY. 

#5 This is an easy fix as you the buyer can take pictures after receiving the item and submit a retrun/refund in which you the buyer will win 100% of the time.

#6 I don't know how you can claim this when ebay sides with buyers 99% of the time when it comes to disputes. 

You obviously do not like ebay. Might I suggest not using it. I don't like the Kardashians. So you know what I don't do? I don't watch their show.

[buyselljack2016]

#4 Providing fake tracking is also impossible. When your order is processed, ebay automatically sends the buyer the tracking number provided by the SHIPPING COMPANY. 

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happens often.

automatic sending of tracking depends upon where tracking is purchased.

Sellers add a tracking # in some instances.  A used #.  A # for something else.................................... 

[ethanweisinger]

Most of you here are sellers and have no clue how the real world works honestly.  Basically is like we're asked to hand you our money before the negations start which both are wrong to begin with.  1. we can't hand you any money in any circumstances, full, stop, period and 2. we can't just hand you our money until the goods are purchased or agreed to be purchased. This is such a simple concept that most of you can't just grasp. 

Make an offer is nothing else than an online negotiation.  Now imagine in the real world you're negotiating to buy a car which I just did last week, about 75K value, so we were back in forward for 3 or 4 days until we agreed on a price and the options. Only at that I point I had a discussion with finance guy and handed my check to then. So why would eBay be any different?

Again, nothing more than a money grabbing scheme and inconvenience the buyers even more.  What you don't see is that ultimately you as sellers are loosing business and eBay is loosing revenue. I wouldn't call that a win win situation 🙂

[oldschool718]

This is a good thing, you should have available funds before making an offer or placing a bid on an auction. who wants to get a message from the person who won the auction or whose offer was accepted say something like I get paid Friday or any other lame excuse, as to why or when they are gonna pay , if they even do pay. 

I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a Hamburger Today !

[oldschool718]

Maybe This has something to do with it !

[rifter7]

Well stated. I'm not giving eBay my payment upfront. Also, what if I want (or need) to change my payment method? Some sellers already lost sales from me as a result of this. I get the need to clamp down on non-paying buyers, but this will hurt the sellers more. 

[2013grotz]

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@ethanweisinger wrote:

2. we can't just hand you our money until the goods are purchased or agreed to be purchased. This is such a simple concept that most of you can't just grasp. 

I would say you are the one that doesn't grasp this.   If you make an offer, you AGREE to purchase the item at the price set.  Ebay has stated this very clearly in that menu and has always operated in this fashion, at least ever since I've been here.  If you have problems handing over money for a purchase you AGREED to make, there's more issues to discuss here than ebay's policy of finally enforcing this.

[2013grotz]

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@yuzuha wrote:

How often does that even happen, though? The last time I had a non-payer on an offer was in 2018. Every other buyer I've had since then has paid promptly (as in, within 48 hours) once I accepted their offer.

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About 25% of the time.

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When I re-read this, I thought of something I wanted to say in my prior response but forgot.  If you throw all the auctions I've had on the site in to the mix in addition to all the accepted best offers, this number pushes up closer to 50% of these things where they've had at least one deadbeat buyer involved.

[2013grotz]

From https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/buy-now/making-best-offer?id=4019

Always been that way on here, as far as I know.

[2013grotz]

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@buyselljack2016 wrote:

Sort of like an "in person offer".  Offer with the money in your hand, as opposed to reaching in your pocket to pay when the seller says OK. Going to pay, then "show the money" should not be an issue.

This really isn't much different than going to an in-person auction house.  They don't let anyone bid except registered bidders who show issued credentials (think paddles with numbers on them), and what happens to make that happen?  "Who are you, and show us you got the money to pay".  You don't want to do that, you don't get to bid.  Simple.  If you intend to bid and purchase, then there's no issue whatsoever.

[powell-memorabilia]

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@2013grotz wrote:

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@ethanweisinger wrote:

2. we can't just hand you our money until the goods are purchased or agreed to be purchased. This is such a simple concept that most of you can't just grasp. 

I would say you are the one that doesn't grasp this.   If you make an offer, you AGREE to purchase the item at the price set.  Ebay has stated this very clearly in that menu and has always operated in this fashion, at least ever since I've been here.  If you have problems handing over money for a purchase you AGREED to make, there's more issues to discuss here than ebay's policy of finally enforcing this.

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So many of us make offers, hate the new system, and always pay for our purchases.  

For me, it isn’t about not wanting to have a card on file - it is the overly-clunky process AND I’ve had hundreds of dollars on hold in my PayPal account for offers that had been rejected.  It makes for a crummy buying experience.  

for what I buy, I saw a lot of pre-funding requirements early in this program.  I tried it a couple of times - hated it.  Lately, I haven’t seen these requirements - I think that those early sellers in the program had enough complaints from legit buyers that they took off this option.

[oldschool718]

It's now a sellers preference ,

 

[campanaelia]

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@oldschool718 wrote:

This is a good thing, you should have available funds before making an offer or placing a bid on an auction. who wants to get a message from the person who won the auction or whose offer was accepted say something like I get paid Friday or any other lame excuse, as to why or when they are gonna pay , if they even do pay. 

I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a Hamburger Today !

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Buyers not agreeing with this has nothing to do with them not planning to pay if the offer is accepted. Why can't sellers wait the minimum 4 days for payment or simply relist in the case of an occasional non-payer? It's not fair to penalize all buyers because of the minority. Sellers already have in their buyer requirements the 2 strike rule to protect themselves from non-payers.

I stopped selling on ebay years ago and only sell on FB marketplace now in-person. People ask me all the time to put items aside until they get paid or have the time to meet. Many of my clients are students so I try to work with them. I like to think positive and trust people and I feel in the long run it's led to more sales than not. I think how you treat others comes back to you and I have a 5 star rating on my commerce profile as a result.