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Does a buyer have any responsibility to prove that an item is “not as advertised”?  It appears to me that they do not.  All they have to do is state that the reason for a return is that it wasn’t as advertised.  The seller, in reality, has no protection regarding a buyer lying about the reason for a return.  This is totally absurd. 

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Maybe you.....oh never mind.

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No, realistically they don't. As a new seller selling some expensive items, count yourself lucky if you get the drone back. 

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No, a buyer doesn't have to prove anything, just file an INAD and they are covered by the MBG.

Have a great day.
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Nope.
You are correct. Remember to report the buyer for being abusive with their false claim. It won’t help your current case, but maybe you helped another seller in the future if the buyer tries to pull this again.

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You have accurately explained returns via any online sales venue with a payment processor. 

Not absurd, simply a reality.

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@rdbishop999  if u don't accept the return, ebay will let the buyer keep the item and back charge you for the refund

 

if u receive the item back and it is not in the same condition as sent, u can deduct up to 50% of the selling price if u offer free returns, are TRS, etc - read here>

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/member-behavior-policies/condition-returned-items-policy?id=4763

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Does a buyer have any responsibility to prove that an item is “not as advertised”?”

 

This is an astute question. The answer is No, indeed. The buyer is not required (at least at this time) to prove any claim. They do not have to provide photos or other evidence. They need not support their reliability or veracity with proof. Buyers are given the benefit of the doubt by eBay, where the buyer’s interests are primary and nearly always protected.

 

This is the peak risk all eBay sellers are subject to. The buyer may be committing fraud, but eBay backs buyers first, which can be at the sellers’ expense. So it is important to have a plan on how to deal with possible retail shrinkage.

 

The way i have dealt with it is to a) add a few cents on to every sale which is set aside for potential loss (have never had need of it, knock on wood). b) I offer free returns to prevent bogus Money Back Guarantee claims. (I get very few returns as it is and have not seen an increase of them.) c) I keep abreast of eBay policy to be forearmed, so i am as well-versed in potential scam avenues as the fraudsters are. Generally, I also d) give the buyer the benefit of the doubt. If afterwards my faith is proven to be misplaced, then i contact my list of authorities and report criminal behavior. Fortunately, in 15 years of selling, have never needed to report buyer fraud. (Had a couple of sellers cheat me long ago, but never a buyer.)

 

e) Set my Buyer Requirements to their strictest settings. f) If someone proves dishonest, i put their IDs on my block list. I do not block buyers who are new, have no or low feedback, who ask questions, or may be “suspicious” (that is because i am here to sell, not collect possible scammer names. They must be actual scammers, in other words before going on the block list).

 

Last but not least, g) unless i have something compelling to list, i avoid high fraud categories such as electronics, gaming, computers, smartphones, high-end luxury goods, etc.

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I forgot to mention that a seller can appeal eBay’s ruling on Not As Described claims. See the link to the policy below.

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/managing-returns-refunds/appeal-outcome-case-seller?id=4369#sectio...

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Regarding the sale of luxury goods  -- I've had great results with ebay authentication, avoiding the possibility of both INR and INAD claims .

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To answer your question:  NO, they don't have to prove anything.

All they have to do is claim the item is "not as described".

Please keep that in  mind when selling here.

One In A Million You - Larry Graham
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@iamalwaysright wrote:

Nope.
You are correct. Remember to report the buyer for being abusive with their false claim. It won’t help your current case, but maybe you helped another seller in the future if the buyer tries to pull this again.


From what little the OP has mentioned, we don't don't know if it was a false claim or not.

Have a great day.
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@kensgiftshop wrote:

@iamalwaysright wrote:

Nope.
You are correct. Remember to report the buyer for being abusive with their false claim. It won’t help your current case, but maybe you helped another seller in the future if the buyer tries to pull this again.


From what little the OP has mentioned, we don't don't know if it was a false claim or not.


Although I believe the OP was speaking generally, I was responding to their statement about having “no protection regarding a buyer lying about the reason for a return.”

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I think ebay is trying to get stores to run smoothly like brick and mortar stores. When you return something to them, they don't quiz you and give you a bad time. They certainly don't block you and tell you to never return. You might want to keep that in mind when listing and selling here.

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FYI this is the same  policy/procedure on Amazon

"I have the right to remain silent but I didn't have the ability." Ron White, Fritch, Texas
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