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If you a seller could meet with a Congressman about eBay issues what would you talk about

I read an article about a seller who met with a Congressman about a lot of issues they believe eBay was crossing moral , ethical and legal lines.  It got me to thinking what would other sellers bring up to a Congressman if they had an opportunity to talk with one? 

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Yeah, it's an ongoing thing with me and the insurance co. on a couple of prescription drugs I have.

The same with insulin, that comes in a 30-day bottle, SOL on day 31 (skip-a-dose-day).

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"I wouldn't, because those people don't give a twit about people like us.  If the people that run this place don't care, why would they? 
Keep believing they are there to actually help you, and you keep this system going, and getting worse."

Wow.   Your congress-person in the US House of Representatives has the closest relationship to The People in their district of any legislator in Washington DC.  If you truly believe your own congressional representative doesn't give "a twit" about you, it might be time next year to vote him out of office.  

You know that eBay users can see your location in your listings, right?  I took a couple minutes to google who your representative in the US House of Representatives is.  Looks like he is involved in a couple of committees and caucuses that advocate for real people, health, and environmental issues, like the Diabetes Caucus and the Congressional Bike Caucus.  Not to mention the Wild Salmon Caucus and the Wine Caucus, two groups I didn't even know existed!  

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@bryo_3145 ,

 

Someone has to pay for the roads, schools, jails, military, stadium for the football game I'm watching now, parks, food stamps, medicaid, welfare benefits, rebates for buyers of EV's, climate change prevention, foreign aid, law maker salaries, subsidies for farmers, turtle tunnel in FL., police, fire fighters, the bridge to nowhere in Alaska, Joe Biden's salary, Trump's presidential pension, and etc.

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I would force feed hm the 10th Amendment. Over and over and over.

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand
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@dr.automobiliac wrote:

I read an article about a seller who met with a Congressman about a lot of issues they believe eBay was crossing moral , ethical and legal lines. 


@dr.automobiliac : Can you please post a link to that article? Where can we find it?

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Yes but they are equivalent trades.  The seller isn't making anything more than its worth.  No side makes out better than the other, its equivalent trades.

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I thought this thread was for matters related to eBay?

 

I would want to discuss changes to the Digital Millenium Copyright Act that would bring some sort of enforceable cost to those that abuse the DMCA with false infringement notices.

 

In a similar vein  something needs to be done about these new “Schedule A Defendant” lawsuits which have been popping up over the past 6 months.

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
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I would rather discuss ebay issues with ebay, not a congressman.

Long Train Runnin' - The Doobie Brothers
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cc rules that give a refund without a return...........

 

SAD lawsuits

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About eBay hmmm...  I'd have to broaden it to lets say third party sales.

 

There'd be allot to discuss but then again, allot is in and has been in discussions.

 

Counterfeiting & Piracy but that's not limited to third party points of sale (POS) and we're talking about organized crime, that's the scale its on and its global.  That said, the amount onus being placed upon POS or seeking to be put upon them is extremely weighted in favor of manufacturers and retailers who's motives are more than the stopping of these products.  That assessing such products should not be in the hands of third party representative firms or subcontract locating entities but instead with partnership between Government(s) directly and POS's.  This is extremely complex domain to discuss.

 

First sale doctrine towards online mechanisms of sale need be discussed in respect to Warrants of Merchantability and forms of new liability insurance offerings and law.  Manufacturers who wish proclaim rights need require an interface by which sellers can access manufacturers towards authentications and revenue shares appeasing the conflicts thereof.

 

I would wish discuss mechanisms by which third party commerce entities can fit in to the loop currently only filled by manufacturers, retailers, distributorships.  Solutions to pressing problems IMHO lay within cooperative relationships with third parties versus adversarial ones and thus third party resellers and POS entities become a valued asset to manufacturers, retailers and distributorships.  Third party commerce needs in some ways to be reinvented, not quashed.  When there exists millions atop millions of resellers who can make a living, raise families and more via third party online resale this displays it as a viable mechanism of commerce thereof and thus needs to be fostered towards mutually beneficial results for all stakeholders.  In order to accomplish this third party online commerce needs to be recognized towards being more mainstream like traditional retail yet in doing so needs to be reinvented as a unique "bubble" in the equation of Manufacturer, point of sale, distributorships.  The bloodletting that's been going on for some 20 years needs to stop as it is only then that new roads can be established and those new roads contain the solutions to matters of counterfeit, piracy, warrants of merchantability and more.

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As far as purely eBay matters go:

 

Make it illegal to charge fees on sales tax.  (And shipping, as long as we are dreaming.)

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If I could have a sit down talk with a congresperson AND if I thought it would actually do any good (highly doubtful, they are typically a waste of skin), eBay would be very far down on my list of things to talk about.  There are thousands of topics that have immensely more importance than eBay selling.  eBay would be so far down the list that a solid month of discussions would still not be enough time to get through other things to even mention eBay.

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@monroe67 wrote:

"I wouldn't, because those people don't give a twit about people like us.  If the people that run this place don't care, why would they? 
Keep believing they are there to actually help you, and you keep this system going, and getting worse."

Wow.   Your congress-person in the US House of Representatives has the closest relationship to The People in their district of any legislator in Washington DC.  If you truly believe your own congressional representative doesn't give "a twit" about you, it might be time next year to vote him out of office.  

You know that eBay users can see your location in your listings, right?  I took a couple minutes to google who your representative in the US House of Representatives is.  Looks like he is involved in a couple of committees and caucuses that advocate for real people, health, and environmental issues, like the Diabetes Caucus and the Congressional Bike Caucus.  Not to mention the Wild Salmon Caucus and the Wine Caucus, two groups I didn't even know existed!  


People don't understand where their freedom comes from.  The founding documents of this nation differ significantly from ALL others and why history has revered them around the globe.  Governed by the people and for the people does not mean simply by elected representatives.  It meant that every individual is to take an active role in self-governance and this is what is continually been eroded.  It's been eroded not by government or elected officials, its been eroded by lifestyles and peoples unwillingness to be part of self-governance in their communities, states and DC itself.

 

When an individual does not engage in his/her representation they in essence wave their voice.  Now for years its been said, "Well if you don't vote you yield to those who do."  Yes, this is true on that frontier per se but even voting and not being active within the governance system still waves ever so much self-representation.  That self-representation was what our founding documents from the Constitution to The Bill of Rights and more is all about.

 

Certainly its much easier to wander through ones day eating up the lifestyle rather than being educated on issues of the community, state, nation or world and activated.  Its not government who has taken individuals rights or power away, its people gifting it away and then judging and prosecuting with voice only that which is more opinion then fact.  This is the EXACT tool being used by America's adversaries to implode the entire nation from the inside out without an adversary ever firing a shot in respect to battle.

 

As has been said and is true, "Actions speak louder than words" yet in America self-governance is BOTH and when EITHER is yielded those who do so are the "Sheep."  The Sheep "Bah..." and "Bah..." and "Bah..." pointing their heads in blame to anyone other than self yet self is actually where they have yielded the very rights that they so wish to howl about.

 

Sheep go where the Dogs drive them and the Dogs listen to the Shepherds.  Most of the Americans who believe they are Lions believe so through derived thought.  Someone else is doing the thinking!  Their mouths and thoughts might well be those of the Lion but in reality they are simply driven sheep.

 

My ladies Great Great Great Great Grandfather was Major General Sullivan, a key figure in both the American Revolutionary War and The Constitution.  He led the Indian Campaign, those who know history American history know will know the name all to well.  Uhh... Yea...  He's considered a Constitutional founder due to his ever strong and vocal advocacy of The Constitution of the nation, a true Patriot of the times VERY unlike those who call themselves "Patriots" now.  In fact, most of those who deem themselves Patriots now he'd have had shot.  No lie, as would if he were alive and gifted the authority General Patton would do same.

 

All that aside, every citizen was intended to be an active entity in self-governance with voice MUCH more powerful than that of the vote alone.  If it WERE NOT for that, everyone working for some company live at the behest of what the company demands.  There would be no worker rights.  There were be no ownership in Liberty and Freedom.  The very people who tend yell the loudest about how "Wrong" all things are and have outlandish opinion they believe is their fact are those whom actually PROVIDE for they very issues they yell loudest about.  They in essence are causal of their own distress.

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@dr.automobiliac wrote:

I read an article about a seller who met with a Congressman about a lot of issues they believe eBay was crossing moral , ethical and legal lines.  It got me to thinking what would other sellers bring up to a Congressman if they had an opportunity to talk with one? 


What were the moral, ethical and legal lines the seller thought eBay was crossing? Can you post a link to the article?

 

When it comes to "legal lines", sellers post on this board constantly suggesting that eBay is breaking the law and in almost every case the seller is completely wrong. 

 

When it comes to "moral and ethical lines" that eBay "crosses", I'm not what one would expect a congressman to do about that.  Because from what I can tell, a whole lot of Congressman cross more moral and ethical lines than eBay does. 

 

 

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It would depend on which one I got to talk to.  

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