01-01-2018 08:48 AM
I ordered 2 lamps from buyer for aproximately $52 a piece. One arrived broken. I asked for a replacement as i needed 2 lamps. Buyer refunded half the money and wont communicate with me. They are still selling the same lamps, but for almost 3 times the price now. Should i not be entitled to a replacement when the item is still available ? One bedside lamp is useless to me, and im not paying $140 for the lamp that i payed $52 for.
01-02-2018 03:38 PM
@d-k_treasures wrote:
@castlemagicmemories wrote:
How can they file SNAD when the one lamp is good? Like I said, they didn't buy a pair - they bought 2 separate lamps. And they receved the money back for the broken one.
but the buyer wanted 2 matching lamps! one was damaged and seller refunded, sounds fair so far. buyer wants 2 good ones or none, that makes sense too. just return the good one and start over, or pay the premium price for a second. shipping cost would be a factor. WHO PAYS IT??? if it was the seller, it may be cheaper to just match the cost, if the buyer, just pay the higher cost instead of return shipping. so somebody is 'stuck' no matter what!
01-02-2018 10:40 PM
@d-k_treasures wrote:
@castlemagicmemories wrote:
@garmentvarmint2004 wrote:CASTLE..
This buyer has definetly NOT BEEN MADE WHOLE. He is now stuck with a useles lamp that is only one of a pair.
This seller screwed up in the first place---by packing his shipment poorly. So that one of the lamps was broken. That was his was his mistake--not the buyer's. Because thiis happened--he should be feelling embarrassed---and he should be wiling to make sure that this buyer is not inconvenienced any further. Instead he refuses to send a replacement--and is trying to force this buyer into now paying DOUBLE the price to obtain the matching lamp that he needs--and that he should have received in the from the start. Buyer paid for a pair of lamps, but was sent only one that was not broken.
To me this issue is all about ethics.
This seller shoud do whatever necessary to give the buyer what he ordered.
Hi garmentvarmint:
He is not stuck with a useless lamp as he can request to return that lamp as not as described and get the money for that lamp back, and start all over finding the lamps that he wants.
He is NOT stuck with it.
The OP has not detailed how the lamps were packed so you are assuming this is on the seller. Sometimes the most well packed items can turn up broken, due to carrier issues. Surely you have heard of that.
I've been in situations on ebay where I received the wrong thing, and received my money back when I opened a dispute and sent the item back. Would I have liked them to send the right item? Yes. Did they have to do so? No, that can be cost prohibitive for many smaller sellers here that are not Macy's. I understood, and ordered it from another seller. In this situation, the seller had posted a wrong picture with the listing, and said it was a manufacturer issue. The listing is still running with the picture of the item I returned when originally it had a stock picture that was similiar but not the same.
The seller can opt to correct this by sending another lamp so the OP has a matching set, or they can simply refund half the money. They may not wish to send this buyer another lamp.
So ethics are satisfied~buyer is not out any money for the broken lamp and can return the unbroken one, at the seller's expense, so be made completely whole if that is what they wish.
As I said earlier, buyer is made whole, just not made whole the way she wanted to be made whole.
How can they file SNAD when the one lamp is good? Like I said, they didn't buy a pair - they bought 2 separate lamps. And they receved the money back for the broken one.
If that is the case than the buyer has been made whole with the refund for the damaged lamp. However, I got the impression that the lamps were purchased together and shipped at the same time as part of a single transaction. If that is not correct, the buyer didn't receive a partial refund at all. Buyer could, if seller accepts returns, request a return since they have no more use for the single lamp, of course, they would have to pay the return shipping.
Or, if the seller has duplicate lamps to the one already purchased, buy one of those using the refunded money from the broken one to offset the higher cost of the new one.
01-03-2018 12:11 PM
Only available remedies under UCC (uniform commercial code)
* refund
* replace + buyer pays any price difference (ya know prices do go up on stuff or the lot a seller - or store - had for sale were obtained at a discount so they could sell for less but that supply is gon)
How in bloody world would any seller anywhere know the buyer had to hav 2 matching for their own use? Could be keep 1, give 1 as a gift or both are gifts......
01-03-2018 12:17 PM
Pokie...
Well you are certainly not getting sympathy here! I have long considered most the posters who have responded to your situation--on this Thread-- to be helpful individuals---and fair-minded. I simply do not understand why they keep defending what this seller has done to you. I hope you can find a way to word a Snad Dispute--so that Ebay will find in your favor. If so, then send the useless lamp back for a refund.
And once that is done, go straight to Macy's and get what you need from them.
01-04-2018 08:41 AM
@d-k_treasures wrote:
@castlemagicmemories wrote:
@garmentvarmint2004 wrote:CASTLE..
This buyer has definetly NOT BEEN MADE WHOLE. He is now stuck with a useles lamp that is only one of a pair.
This seller screwed up in the first place---by packing his shipment poorly. So that one of the lamps was broken. That was his was his mistake--not the buyer's. Because thiis happened--he should be feelling embarrassed---and he should be wiling to make sure that this buyer is not inconvenienced any further. Instead he refuses to send a replacement--and is trying to force this buyer into now paying DOUBLE the price to obtain the matching lamp that he needs--and that he should have received in the from the start. Buyer paid for a pair of lamps, but was sent only one that was not broken.
To me this issue is all about ethics.
This seller shoud do whatever necessary to give the buyer what he ordered.
Hi garmentvarmint:
He is not stuck with a useless lamp as he can request to return that lamp as not as described and get the money for that lamp back, and start all over finding the lamps that he wants.
He is NOT stuck with it.
The OP has not detailed how the lamps were packed so you are assuming this is on the seller. Sometimes the most well packed items can turn up broken, due to carrier issues. Surely you have heard of that.
I've been in situations on ebay where I received the wrong thing, and received my money back when I opened a dispute and sent the item back. Would I have liked them to send the right item? Yes. Did they have to do so? No, that can be cost prohibitive for many smaller sellers here that are not Macy's. I understood, and ordered it from another seller. In this situation, the seller had posted a wrong picture with the listing, and said it was a manufacturer issue. The listing is still running with the picture of the item I returned when originally it had a stock picture that was similiar but not the same.
The seller can opt to correct this by sending another lamp so the OP has a matching set, or they can simply refund half the money. They may not wish to send this buyer another lamp.
So ethics are satisfied~buyer is not out any money for the broken lamp and can return the unbroken one, at the seller's expense, so be made completely whole if that is what they wish.
As I said earlier, buyer is made whole, just not made whole the way she wanted to be made whole.
How can they file SNAD when the one lamp is good? Like I said, they didn't buy a pair - they bought 2 separate lamps. And they receved the money back for the broken one.
I stand corrected, that did come out later when another poster, not the OP, revealed that they bought two separate lamps and not a pair. That poster pointed out that that was a big difference.
If the seller offers returns, buyer can return for any reason, but sadly would have to pay return shipping.
Or buyer can keep the one good lamp, and buy a matching one from another seller. Or this seller. I know they raised the price, but price may be competitive with other listings. I don't know. In that case, just figure you got a super deal on one, and average the two prices together if it makes you feel better. Think of it as missing a sale at a B & M for something you needed, you either wait for another sale, buy elsewhere, or just buy it then.
Possibly the OP could return the one lamp on grounds of SNAD because they bought two, intending for them to be a pair, but I am not sure about that. Buyer may still be required to return the good lamp, but seller would be required to pay for return shipping.
Just some thoughts. I don't want to see the OP stuck, either.
01-04-2018 09:16 AM
01-04-2018 09:44 AM
@snowandsmoke wrote:
Your feedback as a seller shows that you have done the exact same thing, simply refunded for the broken item.
yup. Ironic, isn't it?
01-04-2018 09:54 AM
If I had one in stock, providing you proved to me the lamp was broken, I would have sent you a replacement for the same price you paid.
Because I'm wondeful.
Here in the UK, if an online store ships an item and it arrives broken, the online store will send a replacement for the same price paid, even if they have put the prices up since the first item was shipped.
01-04-2018 09:55 AM
"And that's why more and more buyers are choosing to buy elsewhere. Including me."
What's that I hear?
Multitudes of sellers cheering?
Perhaps, those sellers who prefer knowledgeable buyers without an overendowed sense of entitlement?
01-04-2018 09:59 AM
Well you are certainly not getting sympathy here! I have long considered most the posters who have responded to your situation--on this Thread-- to be helpful individuals---and fair-minded. I simply do not understand why they keep defending what this seller has done to you. I hope you can find a way to word a Snad Dispute--so that Ebay will find in your favor. If so, then send the useless lamp back for a refund.
More irony.
You snark on other posters, then go on to recommend exactly what some of those posters already suggested.
Why is filing a SNAD a good idea when you say so, but wrong and un-fair-minded when others say so?
01-04-2018 10:02 AM
pokiesantiques, it's a really good idea to review your seller's feedback before buying.
01-04-2018 10:05 AM
Open a case. The seller will have to either replace it, give you a full refund, or send you a shipping label so you can return it and then receive a full refund. You shouldn't be held responsible for the return shipping and should then receive a full discount. But don't wait too long to open the case.
01-04-2018 10:19 AM
@shellmrtn2 wrote:Open a case. The seller will have to either replace it, give you a full refund, or send you a shipping label so you can return it and then receive a full refund. You shouldn't be held responsible for the return shipping and should then receive a full discount. But don't wait too long to open the case.
The OP very clearly states he has received a refund for the broken lamp so there is no case to file here. His complaint is that he DID receive a refund rather than a new lamp 🙂
01-04-2018 10:20 AM
@muttlymob wrote:
@snowandsmoke wrote:
Your feedback as a seller shows that you have done the exact same thing, simply refunded for the broken item.yup. Ironic, isn't it?
I was thinking hypocritical
01-04-2018 10:30 AM
Because I'm wondeful.
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Wondeful ?
Yes I am, but I can't spell.