I dislike the big A...ordered something here and....

[moondogblues]

Lo and behold I get it today in a PRIME envelope with the 'gift' receipt inside.  I am tempted to give the seller a neutral.  I am sick of the deception.

[gramophone-georg]

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@city*satins wrote:

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

My posts are based on the fact that the OP cannot prove the seller DID NOT use an Amazon business account. Until the OP can prove that the seller misused a personal Prime account, my posts stand.

What reason would a seller have to mark an item as a gift when it is going to the purchaser and not another recipient?  There is no reason.

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OK - I'm still climbing the learning curve about Amazon and Prime, but I'm pretty sure that the reason is no more nefarious than when seller's here elect not to display the postage on the shipping labels they produce here....so that the buyer doesn't complain.

In the case of postage being hidden on shipping labels - to avoid inviting the buyer to write  "I paid you $7.25 for s/h and you paid $6.70 for postage - I want a refund of the difference."

In the case of designating something as a gift, to avoid inviting the buyer to write saying: "I paid $5.50 for this item but the receipt inside says it only cost you $3.75 - I want a refund of the difference."

If designating something as 'gift' is the only way to avoid the Amazon price paid being displayed on the packing slip/insert/receipt, I would think that it's sensible to do this.

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BADA- BINGO!

There is so much patently false information being presented as "fact" in this thread it's giving me the laughs.

[city*satins]

Yes, save those boxes, they do say they tend to get places fast.

Wait a second.  Back the ethics truck up for a second.  Why are some of the same people who are so vigorously objecting to a possible misuse of Amazon Prime to ship to ebay buyers, now declaring how great it is to piggyback on the expedited service contract that Amazon has with USPS for Amazon Prime identifiable packages by using Prime packing to ship items not associated with Prime?

Why is one nefarious and the other a great hack?

[castlemagicmemories]

People reuse boxes all the time.  While I question the morality of misrepresenting where the item is coming from, many have recycled boxes, including those of Amazon.  So from that standpoint, and  considering that many do this as a matter of course, and no one is actually breaking any laws, there is no rule that says you cannot reuse and Amazon box, then it should be ok.

And georg is the one who is doing this,  so it is his choice, and he will do what he will do.

[eleanor*rigby]

I'm feeling like it's the word "gift" you object to, and I can see your point that a "gift receipt" for something you've paid for would seem rather insulting. Do you feel the same way about buying an item that says "free shipping?" We all know that's a misnomer as well . . .

I just feel like we're arguing semantics. 

[castlemagicmemories]

As others have said, it's not just the word, gift.  

[castlemagicmemories]

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@skatefool wrote:

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@cherry*fizz wrote:

I believe it is if they are taking advantage of a service that prohibits them from doing that to get an advantage over another seller. This is not just finding a good source for your items, or whatever else you want to call good business strategies or whatever. It's the same as shipping things that don't qualify for media mail as media mail to pay less. It's not right. It's really sad how many people here think dishonesty is no big deal or "just business". SMH

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Whats even sadder is how all of the outraged buyers kept the item... which makes them party to the seller's dishonesty.

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The buyers paid shipping, the seller made them party to their dishonesty through no fault of the buyer's.

[eleanor*rigby]

Sorry--I missed where others have said that. I'll go back and reread the thread.

For my part, this horse is dead. I'm going to stop beating it.

Night, all!

[castlemagicmemories]

No worries, it happens.

[emerald40]

Amazon offers multi-channel fulfillment to their sellers. If I have inventory in Amazon warehouses and I sell an item on ebay I can put in a fulfillment order for that item and specify where its being shipped to. Amazon just charges me a fulfillment fee.

 Drop Shippers using their Prime buyers account to place orders with other sellers to fulfill items the Drop shipper has sold on places like ebay. You are allowed to do this but you cant use prime shipping becauses its against Amazons policy.

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No semantics.  Clear cut distinction.  The first is allowed.  The second is not.

[gramophone-georg]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

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@skatefool wrote:

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@cherry*fizz wrote:

I believe it is if they are taking advantage of a service that prohibits them from doing that to get an advantage over another seller. This is not just finding a good source for your items, or whatever else you want to call good business strategies or whatever. It's the same as shipping things that don't qualify for media mail as media mail to pay less. It's not right. It's really sad how many people here think dishonesty is no big deal or "just business". SMH

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Whats even sadder is how all of the outraged buyers kept the item... which makes them party to the seller's dishonesty.

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The buyers paid shipping, the seller made them party to their dishonesty through no fault of the buyer's.

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Are you saying all sellers who drop ship are being dishonest? With all due respect... that doesn't seem helpful. It's as bad as saying all buyers are scammers, seems to me.

Again... you have NO way of knowing if there's "dishonesty" in ANY of these deals or not.

Assuming it doesn't make it fact. Just sayin'. 

[emerald40]

I am curious -

In what cases would there be a legitimate  reason why a gift receipt would be in the package.

[moo*cow*corner]

A dropshipper who misuses Prime is NOT A CRIMINAL. Since when does any Amazon (or ebay for that matter) policy carry force of law? Are you trying to tell us that Prime abusers can actually go to jail? Ridiculous.

There is no shipping cost theft. The carrier got paid for their service. How Bezos wants to handle policy violations on his site is his business, not mine. Not a prosecutable crime by any stretch of the imagination.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to play dropshipper whack-a-mole for Bezos, et al. Even for a piddly gift certificate. Not my circus.

As long as I get what I ordered at a price I was willing to pay, in a timely fashion, I'm good to go. I'm still supporting an ebay seller, regardless of where or how that seller chooses to manage and ship their inventory.

Next thing ya know, the busybodies, scolds and nannies will say that reusing Amazon boxes is dishonest, too. Unfair advantage and all that. Good grief!

[castlemagicmemories]

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@gramophone-georg wrote:

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

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@skatefool wrote:

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@cherry*fizz wrote:

I believe it is if they are taking advantage of a service that prohibits them from doing that to get an advantage over another seller. This is not just finding a good source for your items, or whatever else you want to call good business strategies or whatever. It's the same as shipping things that don't qualify for media mail as media mail to pay less. It's not right. It's really sad how many people here think dishonesty is no big deal or "just business". SMH

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Whats even sadder is how all of the outraged buyers kept the item... which makes them party to the seller's dishonesty.

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The buyers paid shipping, the seller made them party to their dishonesty through no fault of the buyer's.

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Are you saying all sellers who drop ship are being dishonest? With all due respect... that doesn't seem helpful. It's as bad as saying all buyers are scammers, seems to me.

Again... you have NO way of knowing if there's "dishonesty" in ANY of these deals or not.

Assuming it doesn't make it fact. Just sayin'. 

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No again, not what I am saying at all, only those sellers who misuse their Prime accounts to dropship as that is against Amazon's terms.  These are small sellers who don't use FBA; they do this to get free shipping after having their buyers pay for shipping.  

[gramophone-georg]

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@emerald40 wrote:

I am curious -

In what cases would there be a legitimate  reason why a gift receipt would be in the package.

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See post 72 on p. 8 and post 82 on p.9.

[cherry*fizz]

I know this wasn't addresed to me, but georg did post earlier that sometimes he has to use Amazon to ship something to a customer, I'm sure he will have more details, but he will have them put in a gift receipt so the buyer doesn't see the price listed. 

The only reason I am replying here is because I am surprised that Amazon still sends a receipt with the price in their regular packages. Literally no other company I have ordered from online has sent me anything with the price on it. They send a packing slip with the items that I have ordered, but no prices. I had to return some things and I had to log into my account on their website to see what I had paid for each item.