Forced immediate payment

[catfanattic]

About a week ago when I tried to buy item froma seller that allows 7 days to pay, I m constantly kicked over to immediate pay. I even called ebay and they could not help. This is ruining my ebay experience!! I have belonged for 12 years. Can anyone help. Thank you.

[chiaretta]

It's the seller who sets immediate payment, not ebay

I would find making the seller wait for more than a few hours totally unacceptable, one week for Fixed Price is beyond indecent

[catfanattic]

I should have been more specific. It is happening with all sellers. I even tried my friend's smart phone and no luck. What is interesting is that items over $200.00 do show the commit to buy feature and not immediate payment. I am thinking ebay wants me to pay for items that are lower in price. Oh well, it was nice to see your response. Take care.

[catfanattic]

Actually, I just got figured it is definitely anything under $100 and it does immediate payment.

[mudshark61369]

@catfanattic,  @chiaretta,

Actually blame this on ebay.  They rolled out new Listing Tools a couple of weeks ago, and while there is one Advanced tool that allows sellers to select features they want, the others have defaults such as Immediate Payment Required (IPR) that sellers cannot change. When sellers use the tools they are not told that IPR will show up automatically, and from the tool they cannoy revise the listings.   Sellers who select the Advanced tool are warned it is only for high volume sellers, before they can proceed. Just another ebay attempt to be an online wally world.

[u_cant_take_it_with_u]

But even at wally world, one can't take a cart full of items to the checkout, and say: "I'll be back in a few days to pay for, and take all of these items".

[woodland_gnome]

eBay announced that it would make most BINs quai-IPR (the difference between eBay-selected quasi-IPR and seller-selected real IPR is that you can't Add to Cart and Request a Total for the latter since that gets around the IPR but you are supposed to be able to for the former) a year or 2 ago, and gradually rolled it out to more and more categories/situations over time.  

[castlemagicmemories]

@catfanattic

eBay and sellers prefer prompt payment, paying at listing end, when you buy.

eBay allows an unpaid item dispute to be opened at 48 hrs, which is considered slow pay.  While terms can be 7 days, it is not a good idea to take that long,  The 7 days, while allowed, should really not be counted on.

There seems to be a rash of bidding and not paying and so many sellers have gone to Buy It Now listings with immediate payment required so that serious buyers who will honor their obligation will buy.  Bidding and not paying makes it harder on all, the seller who is accessed fees when the item sells, has to file to get those fees back, and has his item tied up from being bought by a serious buyer, and the buyer, who gets a rep for slow or no paying, and may get a strike which will prevent him from buying from many for a year.  The more buyers who don't pay and use a cancel, the less they will be able to buy for one reason or another, as they either accumulate strikes, or more sellers stop using the auction format.  Those that use ebay as a game cause these situations.

Seller may or may not be able to remove the Immediate Payment required.  He may be reluctant to wait 7 days, as there is a possibility at the end of 7 days, you could a) change your mind B) still not be able to pay C) negotiate post sale for a discount.

It could be Immediate pay because of ebay or because of the seller.  Sorry this is ruining your experience.  You can pay with Paypal credit if you have it, or your credit card, then pay off those when your funds are available, but it is not good to make a seller, or ebay, wait for seven days.  Good luck to you.

[missjen831]

Quite some time ago, eBay quietly made Immediate payment required in multiple categories. It's not always the seller's settings. 

[tinsoldierunderground]

On the other hand, if you're ready to buy it now, why not pay for it now?

Out in the real world, unless you're dealing with a good friend or relative, just saying "I'll buy it and pay you next week" doesn't cut it.  I don't think ebay should be any different.

[southern*sweet*tea]

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@missjen316 wrote:

Quite some time ago, eBay quietly made Immediate payment required in multiple categories. It's not always the seller's settings. 

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http://pages.ebay.com/help/pay/require-immediate-payment.html

[needleinahaystack714714]

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@milspec1959 wrote:

On the other hand, if you're ready to buy it now, why not pay for it now?

Out in the real world, unless you're dealing with a good friend or relative, just saying "I'll buy it and pay you next week" doesn't cut it.  I don't think ebay should be any different.

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@tinsoldierunderground

IPR is not always a positive feature for all sellers.  Most of my buyers purchase more than one item and it isn't fair to me or the buyer for them to be forced to immediately pay for each item one by one.  Imagine going into a grocery store and having to pay for each item individually and then exiting the store prior to buying your next item.  Buy a loaf of bread and pay for it, buy a gallon of milk and pay for it, buy a dozen eggs and pay for it, each time having to pay an additional "courier" fee to have it transported to your car.

 Additionally it is more costly for the seller as they have to pay the FVF AND Paypal merchant fee on each and every transaction.  The minimum fee (unless you have micro payments & ship with no tracking) is an additional $.57.  My buyers generally purchase between 5 & 10 items per order which means it can cost me up to $5.70 per order that goes directly to eBay and Paypal's bottom line.... Pure profit, a real cash cow... Now they just have to convince more sellers it is a good idea.

Then of course there is the time and effort I have to put into going to each and every one of those transactions in Paypal and refunding those additional shipping costs.  Someone will inevitably stop by and chastise me for refunding those additional shipping costs saying I should just ship the items separately as they were ordered, but it isn't my intention to tick buyers off out the gate.  And to those who say.... You aren't protected when combining shipments.  With almost 60,000 transactions I've never had a problem with a buyer opening an INR case when combining separate shipments.  I think I'll just continue with what works.

I certainly can understand IPR if you have a OOAK item or a very costly item, but it is utterly ridiculous to have IPR for repeatables.   Even still, if a seller feels that IPR is a good idea for their business model and it won't chase buyers away, there is the OPTION for them to add it to their listing.  In the meantime, please don't try and wee on my leg and try to convince me it is raining.

[catfanattic]

Thank you for your answer and not blasting me for wanting to wait to pay. If the seller says it is ok why is everyone else insulting me about waiting. I really appreciate knowing now what is going on. Take care.

[catfanattic]

Thank you mudshark! I understand now. 

[castlemagicmemories]

@catfanattic

I'm so sorry if you feel insulted by anything I said.  Such was not my intention, just trying to explain to you that while it may be offered, it is something that is not preferred.  Sellers generally don't like to wait that long, so while he offers it, he may really prefer that someone not wait that long.  If someone owed you money, wouldn't you like to be paid sooner rather than later?  

As it has been explained, eBay is also pushing for IPR.  

Just trying to encourage you not to wait.  If it is a Buy It Now, with Immediate Payment Required, you could lose out on an item you really want to someone who will hit the BIN and pay immediately.  Just a thought.

Again, apologies to you.  I don't think anyone here meant to insult you, they just meant to encourage you to pay immediately.  Your wanting to wait may cause problems for the seller who may not be able to change the listing to suit your requirements and allow you to take a week to pay.  

I understand your frustration; hope you don't lose out on this item.  Sorry it is ruining your buying experience but it seems that eBay has experienced problems with buyers waiting a week to pay and is working to encourage faster payments.  Good luck.