Ebay requesting payment method when submitting an offer???

[safan80]

I was trying to make an offer on an item and it asked for payment before I submitted the offer. Has anyone else seen this? I edited my address out for obvious reasons.

[tinsoldierunderground]

Yes, it's pretty much standard now.  Too many buyers were making offers and then not paying when they were accepted by the seller.

[safan80]

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I make offers on a daily basis and haven't seen this before, so I would not call this standard.

@tinsoldierunderground wrote:

Yes, it's pretty much standard now.  Too many buyers were making offers and then not paying when they were accepted by the seller.

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[tinsoldierunderground]

All I can tell you is it started as ebay putting buyers in a test group nearly a year ago, as I recall being told.

Every offer I've made in the last six months has had the payment requirement.  I recall someone posting on here that some sellers have found ways around it... Maybe you're just charmed.  

[safan80]

Ebay is doing what they can to drive buyers and sellers away. It is really sad to see such a high level of incompetence ruin this platform. 

[bonjourami]

I expect most sellers are happy with the instant payment now with best offer, after having been shafted so many times by non paying 'buyers'. And if most buyers really want the item, whats wrong with paying instantly?

[buyselljack2016 · Accepted solution]

sellers can opt out of the requirement by going to "buyer requirements", and unchecking the box.

It is still a "test".  Not all "buyers" are in the test.

There is now a "requirement" to provide a payment source before "bidding" on auctions.

Again, this program, as with "offers" is also only in the "test" phase for some "buyers".

Sellers will find that they have also been opted into this with the "buyer requirement" box auto check marked by eBay for bidders on auctions.

[safan80]

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@buyselljack2016 

Thank you for this. That explains why only the one listing had it. 

@buyselljack2016 wrote:

sellers can opt out of the requirement by going to "buyer requirements", and unchecking the box.

It is still a "test".  Not all "buyers" are in the test.

There is now a "requirement" to provide a payment source before "bidding" on auctions.

Again, this program, as with "offers" is also only in the "test" phase for some "buyers".

Sellers will find that they have also been opted into this with the "buyer requirement" box auto check marked by eBay for bidders on auctions.

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[safan80]

@bonjourami 

I don't like ebay AUTO paying ANYTHING... I've had so many issues as a seller with their AUTO fee deduction which completely ignored my fee discounts that should have been applied. The end result was me having to call in to get it resolved, sometimes twice, once three times. I have yet to opt into mismanaged payments.

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@bonjourami wrote:

I expect most sellers are happy with the instant payment now with best offer, after having been shafted so many times by non paying 'buyers'. And if most buyers really want the item, whats wrong with paying instantly?

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[ittybitnot]

 And if most buyers really want the item, whats wrong with paying instantly?

@bonjourami 

Perhaps the buyer would like to combine multiple items from the same seller. Maybe the seller would like to get multiple sales from the same buyer, but are unaware of the consequences of the default choice.  Combined items for one price is not possible with this program nor the one for supplying the payment source in order to bid.   Buyers pay more, sellers pay more, and of course eBay has found a way to make more money. 

If eBay truly wanted to solve the unpaid item problem, they should simply get rid of the buyers who do not pay. It is a simple matter to disallow another account from the same person, just like they do with sellers.  Instead they provide a bad buyer experience, and don't care.  EBay simply enrolls more and more buyer IDs in this instead.  

If a seller's fear of NPBs is greater than their need of money, they will never know how many buyers simply did not succumb to the new requirements when those preferences remain in the default mode. eBay is certainly not going to post the information to the seller's log...that 175 people chose not to proceed. No more combined shipping, not more request total,  can't use seller coupons or promotions, cant use eBay coupons, can't use spendable funds, can't use PayPal credit, or PayPal Pay in 4, or GooglePay or Apple Pay.    

Limiting buyer choices for buyers is the new eBay norm.

[campanaelia]

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@bonjourami wrote:

I expect most sellers are happy with the instant payment now with best offer, after having been shafted so many times by non paying 'buyers'. And if most buyers really want the item, whats wrong with paying instantly?

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If sellers can't afford to wait 4 days then they should stop whining and just list items with BIN requiring immediate payment and not include the B/O option. In 20 years on ebay I've never had an unpaid item and never plan too. I am also not going to let ebay make charges on my card w/o me reviewing it first, I've seen too many glitches on ebay to allow that.

My life also doesn't revolve around ebay deliveries. I am usually out of town 50% of the time and bid and make offers during that time knowing I have the 4 days to pay. I certainly don't want immediate payments and items being delivered when nobody is there.

In addition. sellers already have their buyer requirement settings to weed out non-payers, 2 unpaid strikes and your out. Meanwhile buyers can't get a simple sellers block list to block deadbeat sellers.

Until ebay can guarantee everything I pay for will be shipped and exactly as described, buyer's should not have to guarantee anything either.

A MBG claim takes a lot longer than 4 days for buyers to be refunded. and if buyers have to wait 6 calendar days, including weekends, just to ask ebay to step in, sellers can wait too, it's a 2 way street. I just had to wait aprox. 3 weeks for my money to post back to my card on two items through the MBG. I find it comical ebay sellers are complaining  about having to wait the 4 days to simply relist the item for the minority of non-payers .

[safan80]

Now it's happening on every item I make an offer on.

[ms.rodriguez*]

The only problem with this is that you can't get combined shipping. Ebay is ONLY driving away the deadbeats and the people that take days to pay. If you only want one item and you are willing to make an offer, then you are willing to pay for that item rightaway.  

Some people don't like it because they use different credit cards to buy stuff and I guess, they forgot which card they owe less on.   

[bonjourami]

"If sellers can't afford to wait 4 days then they should stop whining and just list items with BIN requiring immediate payment and not include the B/O option. "

You misunderstood, has nothing to do with a seller waiting four days to get paid. Has everything to do with the 'buyer' not paying at all after a best offer is made.

[campanaelia]

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@ms.rodriguez* wrote:

 Ebay is ONLY driving away the deadbeats and the people that take days to pay. 

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I thought the sole purpose of this was to "drive away" non-payers. Are you now saying paying within the allowable 4 day minimum is a problem too? Luckily I have never had this happen to me yet. I deal with many repeat sellers that allow me up to 3 weeks to bid on items for combined shipping. To me it seems very smart for sellers to allow more time, not less. It keeps me loyal to watching and bidding all their items and even if I don't win them all I help bid up even the ones I lose. This policy seems very close-minded to me.