Be warned

[waba_wookie]

I want to warn people that all selling platforms on the internet will be selling a bunch of Looted- Stolen items from the Riots. A whole bunch of new sellers will make accounts to sell their stolen goods.

It makes me sad that some will want stock prices to reflect increased sales of stolen items as genuine profits.

God bless

[sabsh9516]

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/looters-flee-in-luxury-suvs-after-ransacking-nyc-stores-video/

[mam98031]

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@mobley120 wrote:

I want you and those alike to understand something about me, and my thoughts, to understand what proactive means, if no more than an announcement. A proactive approach.

I hope and pray eBay, is addressing the issue in a proactive light, and, I hope pray they'll let it be known.

This is why: my son is an inner city police officer, his job is very difficult, as I would imagine of many other police officers.

I asked him about the current events, and, in brevity, this is what he said "Pop, there are bad apples everywhere, we have 'em too. And justice most be served thoughtout, regardless of where it falls, and we can't give up or makes excuses for those bad apples; if we do, they'll always be there."

I haven't slept days, can you wonder why? And to add to my sleepless nights, we have a President that wishes to incite voilent...

Please understand my feelings : (

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As a mom, my heart is with you for concern for your son.  I sincerely hope he stays safe, healthy and strong.

I think part of the problem for many is the overuse of the words "bad apples".  It is a go to phrase that means nothing anymore.  We are many years past the previous riots for the same type of reasons we are seeing them today.  Not much has changed obviously.  And those "bad apples" are allowed to continue to thrive while others lose their lives and property.  

Too many years have passed.  This is not a new issue.  But it is an issue that has never been fixed and that is what needs to change.  

The Good Apples need to help weed out the "bad apples" now, not later but now.

[beautifulbeauty2012]

No, they will go to pond shops, and established eBay sellers will sell it here. It`s been going on forever here, especially with merchandised credits for return of stolen goods, office supplies such as expensive toners, etc.

We can`t do anything about it, but sure prices will go up for even higher loss prevention upcharge and insurance than it was before for all merchandise in stores.

[mobley120]

I agree with you 100 percent, and, you and I, most definitely see eye to eye. Your post is
Spot on.

Thank you,

[vcbjtk0]

I appreciate the warning but it takes a lot more than snip-snap 1,2,3 to list and then actually sell an item on ebay... Just ask anyone who thought they'd come here and drop in with a new account and start selling, it doesn't work that way... Not really, ebay would like everyone to believe it's that easy but in reality it isn't.

Just for starters you need a confirmed street address and phone number and they require you link your bank account, that alone would scare off most would-be fast swindlers. Even once a new seller gets past all the initial hurdles there's a lengthy (and I mean long) learning curve.

Most buyers here are regulars too and most can discern just from the looks of an auction what kind of seller they're most likely dealing with. No, they mightn't know a thief from an honest guy but I guarantee they can tell a new seller from someone that's been here 20 years.

So anyhow, I just thought I'd mention this.

[mobley120]

OMG, What ya really saying, there, you think people aren't capable of doing the same thing others do. Hey, you may not believe it, but other people have actual street addresses too, some looters were actually organized. I wonder why?

[mobley120]

I think you really don't know how pond shops operate nowadays, you've been watching too many movies, this is what you'll face; required picture ID, thumb print, photo will be taken of you while you're there doing that pawn-off... Believe or not, they have strict by-laws and or laws to follow, you know, requirements to operate as a pawn shop; such is a fact

[jerzee908]

I don't sell high-end luxury items, but isn't there rules on eBay when it comes to selling this stuff?

I'm fairly close to New York City and have a police scanner that I've been listening to. ANY and EVERY big name luxury brand store you can think of was totally robbed. Gucci, Prada, Rolex (2.5 million in watches, I'm sure those serial numbers have been flagged), Luis Vuitton, Tiffany & Co., etc., etc. I wish the news would highlight the sheer amount of destruction going on in New York City.

[luckythewinner]

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@waba_wookie wrote:

I want to warn people that all selling platforms on the internet will be selling a bunch of Looted- Stolen items from the Riots. A whole bunch of new sellers will make accounts to sell their stolen goods.

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Stolen items are sold in almost every venue around the world almost every day. 

[chapeau-noir]

Also there's very definitely a brake put on accounts suddenly suddenly selling lots of luxury items, and, yes, a clear audit trail. I think eBay isn't really a great place to be unloading a lot of that stuff.  Listing one.listing.at.a.time, taking photos, then boxing it up carefully when it sells and trotting it to the post office - it seems so somehow clerical and detailed for a lot of pirates.  It's hot, they want their money out of it fast.

There are plenty of other places - Facebook was having to shut down people selling looted antiquities. Right now Craigslist and Offerup are probably going to see some of online, though.

What's going to get really smacked are the insurance companies.  Rates may go up for everyone.

[mam98031]

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@beautifulbeauty2012 wrote:

No, they will go to pond shops, and established eBay sellers will sell it here. It`s been going on forever here, especially with merchandised credits for return of stolen goods, office supplies such as expensive toners, etc.

We can`t do anything about it, but sure prices will go up for even higher loss prevention upcharge and insurance than it was before for all merchandise in stores.

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Does "pond" = Pawn?

[karthok.of.daolodus]

yes - dont know why peeps call them 'pond' shops, maybe it's like being pwned.

[lightlily_arts]

Not that it isn't possible for stolen goods to be sold here, but it is more likely to be sold on the street to remain untraceable. However, it's possible that someone receiving the stolen goods might attempt to sell online. Without knowing specifics of what was stolen it would be hard for buyers to know. Stores that were looted in Santa Monica included Road Runners shoe store Patagonia apparel store Hot Topic REI store Bloomingdale's Wasteland a high-end retailer of pre-owned clothing They also hit the luxury stores on Rodeo Drive Gucci and Alexander McQueen.

[turquoisetulips]

Seems unlikely to me. I don't see many looters tying their bank account to the goods they looted. Maybe a few, but just maybe. andrew 

It  seems unlikely to me that most of those looters even own an I.D . much less an actual bank account . Tulips 

[a_c_green]

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@lightlily_arts wrote:
Not that it isn't possible for stolen goods to be sold here, but it is more likely to be sold on the street to remain untraceable. However, it's possible that someone receiving the stolen goods might attempt to sell online. 

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Unless the items are uniquely identifiable, such as by serial number, then the odds of an item sold here being recognized as stolen are approximately zero. High-end electronics stolen from Best Buy, for example, will have a specific audit trail showing which serial number was shipped to which Best Buy outlet, and lost in looting, so that could be retrieved later if it turns up someplace, but even then, items sold through eBay (and other sites) don't necessarily have to show a serial number as part of the listing or the transaction.