05-17-2019 06:46 PM
I see a lot of misinformation in the eBay Community about drop shipping from Amazon. Maybe it was allowed before but it is not allowed now, and not just from Amazon, from any retailer. If you thought you were buying an item directly from an eBay seller and it comes from Amazon or some other retailer, report the seller. https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/shipping-items/setting-shipping-options/drop-shipping?id=4176
05-18-2019 10:44 AM
@upgradedendmills wrote:Any seller reported to eBay for this kind of activity (buying or selling!) should have a bright red logo attached to all of their listings to identify them as a rule breaker. Even if you have ever just had thoughts of such things you should repent and turn yourself into eBay Trust & Security. Get counseling while there is still time to turn your life around!
1) i'm not into pain so turning myself in is out 😮
2) red skeers me!
3) i tried to find a counselor and they all told me i was over-qualified (what's that mean anyway?) and would wind up corrupting them?... sighs
05-18-2019 10:53 AM
Why do you care? The only reason I might be annoyed is at myself for not checking there first since it must be cheaper.
05-18-2019 11:51 AM
@fern*wood wrote:Why do you care? The only reason I might be annoyed is at myself for not checking there first since it must be cheaper.
only reason i can think of is the seller who doesn't own what they are selling is additional competition for sales.
05-18-2019 12:09 PM
@inhawaii wrote:Is the reverse ok? I have had Amazon sellers copy my listings, markup the price double, then buy one from me and have me drop ship it when ever they sell one.
I think the Amazon seller boards would be the place to seek the answer for that question. eBay's position would be that they buy, you send.
05-18-2019 12:13 PM - edited 05-18-2019 12:14 PM
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@inhawaii wrote:Is the reverse ok? I have had Amazon sellers copy my listings, markup the price double, then buy one from me and have me drop ship it when ever they sell one.
I think the Amazon seller boards would be the place to seek the answer for that question. eBay's position would be that they buy, you send.
It's not allowed there, either.
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/help.html?itemID=201808410
05-18-2019 12:19 PM
@sandra* wrote:I see a lot of misinformation in the eBay Community about drop shipping from Amazon. Maybe it was allowed before but it is not allowed now, and not just from Amazon, from any retailer. If you thought you were buying an item directly from an eBay seller and it comes from Amazon or some other retailer, report the seller. https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/shipping-items/setting-shipping-options/drop-shipping?id=4176
Yes, a lot of misinformation.... It has been against eBay policy for some time to drop ship from Amazon, Walmart, Sam's Club, others. Here is an article on ecommercebytes just over a year ago about eBay throttling (yes, I said THROTTLING sales for drop shippers)
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/comments/2018/5/1526223960.html/2/20
Here is an article back in January
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2019/1/1548108479.html
Here is a thread back in January discussing drop shipping from Amazon:
05-18-2019 12:21 PM
@southern*sweet*tea wrote:
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@inhawaii wrote:Is the reverse ok? I have had Amazon sellers copy my listings, markup the price double, then buy one from me and have me drop ship it when ever they sell one.
I think the Amazon seller boards would be the place to seek the answer for that question. eBay's position would be that they buy, you send.
It's not allowed there, either.
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/help.html?itemID=201808410
- Purchasing products from another online retailer and having that retailer ship directly to customers; or
- Shipping orders with packing slips, invoices, external packaging, or other information indicating a seller name or contact information other than your own.
Well there ya go @inhawaii , there's your answer.
05-18-2019 12:23 PM
@sandra* wrote:I see a lot of misinformation in the eBay Community about drop shipping from Amazon. Maybe it was allowed before but it is not allowed now, and not just from Amazon, from any retailer. If you thought you were buying an item directly from an eBay seller and it comes from Amazon or some other retailer, report the seller. https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/shipping-items/setting-shipping-options/drop-shipping?id=4176
Seems to me this is a rather toothless policy that doesn't even have dentures available. If buyers receive boxes from Amazon, what are they to do? I suppose they could report the seller, but what good does that do? I mean, would it be an INAD like items being displayed as being in the US but being shipped from China?
05-18-2019 12:30 PM
You absolutely could and should! My experience has been that you chances of getting a good product quickly are much better with Amazon than with eBay, even if drop shipping is involved in the process. It's really a shame, I like eBay and have been here for years.
05-20-2019 02:15 AM
05-20-2019 09:38 AM
@computeraidllc wrote:
The only issue with Amazon is for FBA they use the same boxes as a regular Amazon shopper. The only way to tell if someone did a retail arbitrage is a gift receipt in the package. The gift receipt means it was the seller using Amazon as a warehouse but bough it off Amazon and had Amazon send it to you as a gift. This is not allowed.
There are legal drop shippers where the seller has a contract with them to fulfill orders. These drop shippers only sell to buisness that have a DBA and a Resale permit. These are legal on eBay.
Some Ebay sellers have their own inventory held in FBA and it is fine for them to use that to fulfill Ebay orders.
There are some sellers on Ebay that purchase from various other sellers whether on Ebay, Amazon or elsewhere to fulfill their orders and that isn't allowed.
If an Ebay seller is purchasing from a wholesaler with an agreement to dropship for them. That is within the rules.
05-20-2019 10:03 AM
My wife and I have about 10 people saving all of their Amazon boxes for us to reuse; probably 1/2 of what we sell gets shipped in one of these boxes, with an e-Bay postage slip on it. I too would hate to be reported as a drop shipper just because we recycled a good, clean, usable box.
ymmv.
05-20-2019 10:11 AM - edited 05-20-2019 10:12 AM
@varebelrose wrote:My wife and I have about 10 people saving all of their Amazon boxes for us to reuse; probably 1/2 of what we sell gets shipped in one of these boxes, with an e-Bay postage slip on it. I too would hate to be reported as a drop shipper just because we recycled a good, clean, usable box.
ymmv.
It is NOT against the rules for you to recycle boxes. That has nothing to do with this policy.
Buyers that report a seller for one thing or another does not mean the buyer is right in their concern.
Besides since you are using an Ebay purchased label, Ebay would know you are NOT drop shipping.
02-19-2020 10:03 PM
I have blocked a dozen or more ebay members from buying from me, because they have asked me to ship an item with no "invoice" and making explanation that the item is a "gift". Many times they have an ebay user ID that also is found on Amazon as a seller. What has likely happened is the Amazon seller has used my photos and at least part of my description to sell my item at a higher price. But, how do I know how accurately my item was represented to the end user/recipient? If I were selling #2 pencils or #8 nails, I might be happy enough to sell and ship such commodity items to anyone, but most of what I sell are used electronics items, many of which can require a lot of handholding with the end user to find success.
I have little confidence that the average Amazon reseller has my 45 years of audio/video sales and service knowledge and service, nor that the reseller has my vested interest in helping the end user buyer find success, has same incentive to head off a return request, or can instill enough confidence in technical support offered to get a submitted return request reversed. For these reasons, I only want to sell to the end user buyer with whom I have the most control of buyer satisfaction. My experience when I've been asked to approve a return request is that the "buyer" can't answer my specific questions about a claimed defect. I received a tape deck returned at my expense for claimed defect that it broke tapes in rewind, but it had a rewound tape returned inside it that would not break, and neither would any other tapes I tried break. The only email contact information provided to me by ebay and PayPal was that of the Amazon middleman.
I let these buyer/reseller members know that I am packaging with their "gift" my personal contact information as the source of the item, with request to call or write to me for assistance finding success with their purchase. And, I let the buyer/reseller know I'm doing that, too. I don't discuss selling prices unless asked by the end user.
So, I educate the Amazon reseller that I care to sell only to the end user. Most of these resellers are minimally communicative or totally incommunicado, a major reason I block them as buyers. Also, as a lot, they are horrible about posting feedback for me as the seller. I have recently seen one such buyer/reseller who has received over 200 positive feedbacks as a buyer, doubtless from many more transactions, yet has managed to post only one feedback comment for his sellers. If I have one return in 100 sales for unjustified reason, that's 100% too many. And ebay policies allow that to happen.
02-20-2020 08:11 AM