mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@themo_4718 wrote:That is not likely to work since the more sellers drop out, new sellers drop in. eBay will have their pound of flesh no matter what. When I price things, I usually include all my costs of selling, including increases in seller fees. If you are not able to handle the delays in payment, I suggest you take out a small loan to cover your costs, or raise your prices. No two ways about it.
It is because so many posters talk like Manage Payments is something new to the industry and Ebay is the only one doing it. The fact is of the bigger sites, Ebay is the LAST site to adopt it. The other similar sites have done it for years.
MP does NOT increase selling fees for most sellers. Sellers taking hits in fees are those moving in from Micro Payments program in PP and those that were in MP from the beginning or thereabouts.
@bangordiscount wrote:Some sellers remember the days of certain store categories being a 4% FVF like Video Game consoles and fee caps at or around $50 per listing. We also remember 20% TRS discounts. We also remember days before phrases like "high dispute surcharge". Promoted listings, $6 subtitles, and whatever other nickel and dime scheme of the week.
Yes with semantics you can say we are paying slightly less with MP than with PayPal circa 6months-year ago. But we as sellers are all paying more now than at almost any other point in eBay's existence. Factor in the rise in costs of goods and shipping and it's very lean.
For some it works, and for others it doesn't. But let's not compare today to yesterday and forget about the last 20 years either.
Some of us remember the days that gas was $1.25 per gallon or milk was less than half the price it is now. Or etc. etc. etc. Over the years prices have gone up on endless things and services. It is the nature of the business really.
Yes, I tend to deal with the here and now. Comparing pricing on things I need to have or use today verses what they were 10, 20, 30 years ago serve no purpose except to raise my anxiety level or blood pressure. It sure isn't going to help me deal with what is currently happening in my business or life.
So yes, I compare what is going on with the rules and costs of MP to what I was paying in Ebay and PP just before going into MP. It is the only thing that actually matters. Trying to compare it to something from years ago will not help me now in the transition or in the decision to move forward with Ebay or not. Nor will it help anyone else with that decision.
It is NOT "semantics" that most sellers will pay slightly less in fees for MP. You want to compare it to 5 or 10+ years ago, if for you that somehow helps you, IDK, but certainly if you feel the need then do it. To me you are only confusing the issue and it has no real impact on the current rules for MP.
You speak for yourself about your fees. My overall fees have been very stable for a few years now. They fluctuate up when my sales are up of course. But then I don't use promo listings or any of the other add ons that cost more money. I choose not to use them and my sales are fine.
I have always said that MP works for some and not for others. It is a personal choice to make if it is right for your little business or not. But make an informed decision with the facts, not with assumptions or incorrect information. All I try to do is make sure the correct info is out there for sellers to be able to form their own decision with the fact. Whether they decide to stay or go is up to them.
@stilldreamingat52 wrote:I'm also a long time seller, and I agree. The new policy of direct payment is time consuming and confusing.
I actually had to put money into my PP account to cover my shipping costs (I don't want every label deducted from my bank account)
It seems unless your are million dollar or more business, ebay is not really interested in you
Not sure were to go from here
Some confusion is coming from not understanding how MP works. If you'd like to ask some specific questions or give specific situations that are driving you nuts, some of us may be able to help you.
On your specific statement about shipping charges, I can tell you that you do misunderstand that. MP does NOT deduct shipping from your checking account. That does not happen at all.
When you create a label in MP through the Ebay label system, you have an option on your screen to have the cost of the shipping to deduct from your MP account or you can have it deduct from your PP account. There is no such option as to deducting from your checking account, so you do not have to worry about that at all.
Once you make a selection, it will default to that for each label you make after that unless you change your payment option.
Somewhere close to 80% of Ebay sellers are small sellers so Ebay is interested in you and me.
Let some of us experienced with MP help you. Ask any questions you have or describe any things that drive you crazy about MP. We may not be able to take all the issues away but we may be able to lessen your load.
@louies1948 wrote:how I see if I am getting credit for my sales is I save the message ebay sends me when they send a payout. When I get my bank statement, I check and delete the messages as I check my statement. If I have any messages left for payout, then I know it was not put in my account. It works for me, just more work than I had to do before
Dang that is a hard way to keep track of things and likely will lead to your missing stuff. It doesn't have to be that hard by a long shot.
Go to your Seller Hub, there is a payment tab there. All kinds of information is contained there. Spend a little time with it and then come back and ask questions that you need some clarification on. There are far easier ways to track your sales and most it right at your fingertips, you just didn't know it was there.
