03-09-2020 08:36 PM
Do these sellers realize that price gouging is illegal? I mean, $1,000.00 for 1 ounce of USED hand sanitizer while our nation is facing virus that is killing people is not just wrong, it's illegal. Then there is the fact that as fast as eBay is taking them down they are slipping by, by relisting them time & time again. With the above mentioned item being used, it is potentially not safe anyways. I just don't get how these people are going out buying up as much as they can, keeping it out of the hands of those who fall in the at risk groups & then thinking they will get rich while people are at risk of dying! I just find it really sad that some go that low in our nation. I just really want to know why are these items still for sell on eBay & still being allowed to be posted?
03-14-2020 10:08 AM
@lirhoades0 wrote:They are doing the same thing with toilet paper. I just saw 2 four packs of scott toilet paper selling for 53.99. I put in a bid for 7.99 LOL and told them they were price gouging which is against the law.
I am trying to get a message to ebay about this but its so hard to find out where to send in complaints.
https://www.ebay.com/help/home
https://twitter.com/askebay?lang=en
03-14-2020 10:33 AM
03-14-2020 10:39 AM
REPORT, REPORT, REPORT we all have to do our part and report these scum bags for what they are. Also some of the scammers try to be tricky and list sanitizer under incorrect spelling "sanitiser" for example. I do worry about ebay thinking I am a bot though since I have reported over 50 listings this morning. So I have been on the phone with a ebay rep for the last 30 minutes finding and removing price gougers. The ebay rep does not mind this at all.
03-14-2020 10:52 AM
03-14-2020 11:46 AM - edited 03-14-2020 11:47 AM
Sales are zipping along nicely for Chinese sellers of hand sanitizer, selling hundreds of bottles per day. Only US sellers selling hand sanitizer have had their listings pulled from what i can see. If its a banned product shouldn't that ban also apply to Chinese sellers?
Price gouging aside if its banned its banned or am I wrong?
i just searched sanitizer out of curiosity and was surprised at the amount of Chinese listings. Here is one of the many i noticed: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-500ml-Hand-Sanitiser-50ml-mini-Hand-Sanitiser-75-Alcohol-Antibacteri...
Do they figure cause it will take so long to arrive it just doesn't matter?
03-14-2020 02:14 PM
@kateinthe26th wrote:Sales are zipping along nicely for Chinese sellers of hand sanitizer, selling hundreds of bottles per day. Only US sellers selling hand sanitizer have had their listings pulled from what i can see. If its a banned product shouldn't that ban also apply to Chinese sellers?
Price gouging aside if its banned its banned or am I wrong?
i just searched sanitizer out of curiosity and was surprised at the amount of Chinese listings. Here is one of the many i noticed: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-500ml-Hand-Sanitiser-50ml-mini-Hand-Sanitiser-75-Alcohol-Antibacteri...
Do they figure cause it will take so long to arrive it just doesn't matter?
That is simply NOT true. Serious allegation with no facts to support it. As many of us on this thread and others that just watch and read have done. We have done searches and we can tell that a whole lot of US sellers have been affected, as they should have been.
While certainly there are some Chinese sellers involve. Those listings do get taken down as does sellers from other countries to include the USA. You just need to pay a little more attention to the actual facts before throwing out some statement as serious as this one. And by the way. There have been a few sellers of these products posting on the threads too.
03-14-2020 02:53 PM - edited 03-14-2020 02:53 PM
@ifyouloveit wrote:
They are not allowed to sell their merchandise for more than 10% of the regular before pandemic prices.
Over 10% price gouging is subject to a fine and possible jail time, at least in my State.
Thank you! I have some 3M brand N95 masks, part number 8210.
Single masks
2 packs
6 packs
boxes of 10
boxes of 20
Who do i check with to see what the "regular before pandemic prices" are? I want to sell my masks for exactly 10% more than whatever that price is so i wont be accused/arrested/fined for price gouging. Who should i check with?
03-14-2020 03:00 PM
@inhawaii wrote:
@ifyouloveit wrote:
They are not allowed to sell their merchandise for more than 10% of the regular before pandemic prices.
Over 10% price gouging is subject to a fine and possible jail time, at least in my State.Thank you! I have some 3M brand N95 masks, part number 8210.
Single masks
2 packs
6 packs
boxes of 10
boxes of 20
Who do i check with to see what the "regular before pandemic prices" are? I want to sell my masks for exactly 10% more than whatever that price is so i wont be accused/arrested/fined for price gouging. Who should i check with?
Your state laws on this.
You could also most likely do some internet research to find those prices as well. But you do need to know what your state law will let you do as well. As you know you will need to sell them locally and not on Ebay or similar site.
03-14-2020 04:45 PM
03-14-2020 04:52 PM
@equid0x wrote:
I'd like to see one single government document showing "hand sanitizer" as an "essential for life" item.
To the contrary, a few agencies have come out directly stating that "hand sanitizer" is not proven effective against virii and in particular, not against the coronavirus.
In order for items to be considered for "gouging" the items need to be considered "essential to life."
NOTHING in the law says "essential for life". ZIP / ZERO.
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/41889526/emergency-declaration-activates-antiprice-gouging-law
It reads in part as follows:
The anti-price gouging law was enacted in 2004 and it prohibits a supplier from charging "unconscionable prices" for "necessary goods and services" during the 30-day period following a declared state of emergency.
These items can include water, ice, food, cleaning products, hand sanitizers, medicines, personal protective gear and more.
The release says the basic test to see if a price is too high is if the post-disaster price grossly exceeds the price charged for the same or similar goods and services during the ten days preceding the disaster.
Any suspected violations of this law should be reported to the Office of the Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section.
People who would like more information or to file a complaint can call (800) 552-9963, send an email to consumer@aog.state.va.us, or click here. There is also an online form for general consumer complaints here and a main contact form here.
03-14-2020 04:56 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@equid0x wrote:
I'd like to see one single government document showing "hand sanitizer" as an "essential for life" item.
To the contrary, a few agencies have come out directly stating that "hand sanitizer" is not proven effective against virii and in particular, not against the coronavirus.
In order for items to be considered for "gouging" the items need to be considered "essential to life."
NOTHING in the law says "essential for life". ZIP / ZERO.
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/41889526/emergency-declaration-activates-antiprice-gouging-law
It reads in part as follows:
The anti-price gouging law was enacted in 2004 and it prohibits a supplier from charging "unconscionable prices" for "necessary goods and services" during the 30-day period following a declared state of emergency.
These items can include water, ice, food, cleaning products, hand sanitizers, medicines, personal protective gear and more.
The release says the basic test to see if a price is too high is if the post-disaster price grossly exceeds the price charged for the same or similar goods and services during the ten days preceding the disaster.
Any suspected violations of this law should be reported to the Office of the Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section.
People who would like more information or to file a complaint can call (800) 552-9963, send an email to consumer@aog.state.va.us, or click here. There is also an online form for general consumer complaints here and a main contact form here.
Price gouging laws only apply to items that are essential for life, with the exception of Gasoline. They are all state based, and I do not live in Virginia.
I also love how you cherry pick Virginia's law when the last time around you cherry picked Washinton State's law to counter my argument.
03-14-2020 05:30 PM
@equid0x wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@equid0x wrote:
I'd like to see one single government document showing "hand sanitizer" as an "essential for life" item.
To the contrary, a few agencies have come out directly stating that "hand sanitizer" is not proven effective against virii and in particular, not against the coronavirus.
In order for items to be considered for "gouging" the items need to be considered "essential to life."
NOTHING in the law says "essential for life". ZIP / ZERO.
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/41889526/emergency-declaration-activates-antiprice-gouging-law
It reads in part as follows:
The anti-price gouging law was enacted in 2004 and it prohibits a supplier from charging "unconscionable prices" for "necessary goods and services" during the 30-day period following a declared state of emergency.
These items can include water, ice, food, cleaning products, hand sanitizers, medicines, personal protective gear and more.
The release says the basic test to see if a price is too high is if the post-disaster price grossly exceeds the price charged for the same or similar goods and services during the ten days preceding the disaster.
Any suspected violations of this law should be reported to the Office of the Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section.
People who would like more information or to file a complaint can call (800) 552-9963, send an email to consumer@aog.state.va.us, or click here. There is also an online form for general consumer complaints here and a main contact form here.
Price gouging laws only apply to items that are essential for life, with the exception of Gasoline. They are all state based, and I do not live in Virginia.
I also love how you cherry pick Virginia's law when the last time around you cherry picked Washinton State's law to counter my argument.
The previous link was a sample. There are many other states that have similar laws. I don't "cherry pick" anything. You just refuse to accept anything but your own opinion on stuff no matter how much information is given to you. But lets see if any of this helps.
https://www.doj.state.or.us/consumer-protection/sales-scams-fraud/price-gouging/
This list is a little old and likely to have had some additions and changes, but it may help.
https://time.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/price-gouging-statutes.pdf
And while you are correct that the word "essential" does appear in some of these laws, there are broader definitions of that word that you are allowing. It isn't just essential to life [food and water].
Stay safe and healthy. I'm moving on. You are welcome to respond of course as I'm sure you will. But I have no desire to continue with the conversation.
03-14-2020 05:45 PM
03-14-2020 06:44 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@equid0x wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@equid0x wrote:
I'd like to see one single government document showing "hand sanitizer" as an "essential for life" item.
To the contrary, a few agencies have come out directly stating that "hand sanitizer" is not proven effective against virii and in particular, not against the coronavirus.
In order for items to be considered for "gouging" the items need to be considered "essential to life."
NOTHING in the law says "essential for life". ZIP / ZERO.
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/41889526/emergency-declaration-activates-antiprice-gouging-law
It reads in part as follows:
The anti-price gouging law was enacted in 2004 and it prohibits a supplier from charging "unconscionable prices" for "necessary goods and services" during the 30-day period following a declared state of emergency.
These items can include water, ice, food, cleaning products, hand sanitizers, medicines, personal protective gear and more.
The release says the basic test to see if a price is too high is if the post-disaster price grossly exceeds the price charged for the same or similar goods and services during the ten days preceding the disaster.
Any suspected violations of this law should be reported to the Office of the Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section.
People who would like more information or to file a complaint can call (800) 552-9963, send an email to consumer@aog.state.va.us, or click here. There is also an online form for general consumer complaints here and a main contact form here.
Price gouging laws only apply to items that are essential for life, with the exception of Gasoline. They are all state based, and I do not live in Virginia.
I also love how you cherry pick Virginia's law when the last time around you cherry picked Washinton State's law to counter my argument.
The previous link was a sample. There are many other states that have similar laws. I don't "cherry pick" anything. You just refuse to accept anything but your own opinion on stuff no matter how much information is given to you. But lets see if any of this helps.
https://www.doj.state.or.us/consumer-protection/sales-scams-fraud/price-gouging/
This list is a little old and likely to have had some additions and changes, but it may help.
https://time.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/price-gouging-statutes.pdf
And while you are correct that the word "essential" does appear in some of these laws, there are broader definitions of that word that you are allowing. It isn't just essential to life [food and water].
Stay safe and healthy. I'm moving on. You are welcome to respond of course as I'm sure you will. But I have no desire to continue with the conversation.
I've simply challenged your statements and I would appreciate it if you did not assume "what I accept" and "what I do not accept" as it is pretty clear that you are VERY far off.
Like I said, price gouging laws apply to "essential" items. TP and hand sanitizer aren't essential, hate to break it to you.
03-14-2020 06:45 PM