mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@lirhoades0 wrote:They are doing the same thing with toilet paper. I just saw 2 four packs of scott toilet paper selling for 53.99. I put in a bid for 7.99 LOL and told them they were price gouging which is against the law.
I am trying to get a message to ebay about this but its so hard to find out where to send in complaints.
https://www.ebay.com/help/home
@kateinthe26th wrote:Sales are zipping along nicely for Chinese sellers of hand sanitizer, selling hundreds of bottles per day. Only US sellers selling hand sanitizer have had their listings pulled from what i can see. If its a banned product shouldn't that ban also apply to Chinese sellers?
Price gouging aside if its banned its banned or am I wrong?
i just searched sanitizer out of curiosity and was surprised at the amount of Chinese listings. Here is one of the many i noticed: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-500ml-Hand-Sanitiser-50ml-mini-Hand-Sanitiser-75-Alcohol-Antibacteri...
Do they figure cause it will take so long to arrive it just doesn't matter?
That is simply NOT true. Serious allegation with no facts to support it. As many of us on this thread and others that just watch and read have done. We have done searches and we can tell that a whole lot of US sellers have been affected, as they should have been.
While certainly there are some Chinese sellers involve. Those listings do get taken down as does sellers from other countries to include the USA. You just need to pay a little more attention to the actual facts before throwing out some statement as serious as this one. And by the way. There have been a few sellers of these products posting on the threads too.
@inhawaii wrote:
@ifyouloveit wrote:
They are not allowed to sell their merchandise for more than 10% of the regular before pandemic prices.
Over 10% price gouging is subject to a fine and possible jail time, at least in my State.Thank you! I have some 3M brand N95 masks, part number 8210.
Single masks
2 packs
6 packs
boxes of 10
boxes of 20
Who do i check with to see what the "regular before pandemic prices" are? I want to sell my masks for exactly 10% more than whatever that price is so i wont be accused/arrested/fined for price gouging. Who should i check with?
Your state laws on this.
You could also most likely do some internet research to find those prices as well. But you do need to know what your state law will let you do as well. As you know you will need to sell them locally and not on Ebay or similar site.
@equid0x wrote:
I'd like to see one single government document showing "hand sanitizer" as an "essential for life" item.
To the contrary, a few agencies have come out directly stating that "hand sanitizer" is not proven effective against virii and in particular, not against the coronavirus.
In order for items to be considered for "gouging" the items need to be considered "essential to life."
NOTHING in the law says "essential for life". ZIP / ZERO.
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/41889526/emergency-declaration-activates-antiprice-gouging-law
It reads in part as follows:
The anti-price gouging law was enacted in 2004 and it prohibits a supplier from charging "unconscionable prices" for "necessary goods and services" during the 30-day period following a declared state of emergency.
These items can include water, ice, food, cleaning products, hand sanitizers, medicines, personal protective gear and more.
The release says the basic test to see if a price is too high is if the post-disaster price grossly exceeds the price charged for the same or similar goods and services during the ten days preceding the disaster.
Any suspected violations of this law should be reported to the Office of the Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section.
People who would like more information or to file a complaint can call (800) 552-9963, send an email to consumer@aog.state.va.us, or click here. There is also an online form for general consumer complaints here and a main contact form here.
@equid0x wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@equid0x wrote:
I'd like to see one single government document showing "hand sanitizer" as an "essential for life" item.
To the contrary, a few agencies have come out directly stating that "hand sanitizer" is not proven effective against virii and in particular, not against the coronavirus.
In order for items to be considered for "gouging" the items need to be considered "essential to life."
NOTHING in the law says "essential for life". ZIP / ZERO.
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/41889526/emergency-declaration-activates-antiprice-gouging-law
It reads in part as follows:
The anti-price gouging law was enacted in 2004 and it prohibits a supplier from charging "unconscionable prices" for "necessary goods and services" during the 30-day period following a declared state of emergency.
These items can include water, ice, food, cleaning products, hand sanitizers, medicines, personal protective gear and more.
The release says the basic test to see if a price is too high is if the post-disaster price grossly exceeds the price charged for the same or similar goods and services during the ten days preceding the disaster.
Any suspected violations of this law should be reported to the Office of the Attorney General's Consumer Protection Section.
People who would like more information or to file a complaint can call (800) 552-9963, send an email to consumer@aog.state.va.us, or click here. There is also an online form for general consumer complaints here and a main contact form here.
Price gouging laws only apply to items that are essential for life, with the exception of Gasoline. They are all state based, and I do not live in Virginia.
I also love how you cherry pick Virginia's law when the last time around you cherry picked Washinton State's law to counter my argument.
The previous link was a sample. There are many other states that have similar laws. I don't "cherry pick" anything. You just refuse to accept anything but your own opinion on stuff no matter how much information is given to you. But lets see if any of this helps.
https://www.doj.state.or.us/consumer-protection/sales-scams-fraud/price-gouging/
This list is a little old and likely to have had some additions and changes, but it may help.
https://time.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/price-gouging-statutes.pdf
And while you are correct that the word "essential" does appear in some of these laws, there are broader definitions of that word that you are allowing. It isn't just essential to life [food and water].
Stay safe and healthy. I'm moving on. You are welcome to respond of course as I'm sure you will. But I have no desire to continue with the conversation.
