mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@goodluckselling wrote:
@thegardeningworld wrote:Great analysis. I agree totally. Yes it is really bad on low prices items like mine. I also have a sports business on ebay with high price items which will not be that bad at all but ebay will need to change this for low priced items that are under say $2.00 because that is just unacceptable to be charged 25 cents on 1.00 items. I get sales of 40 packs of seeds sometimes and that would be $10 plus 2.7% in fees on a $40 order of 40 $1 items. Outrageous. Ebay will lose bigtime on this as there are countless sellers like me with less than 2.00 items.
With the new payment fee this will certainly take out most of the lower cost items that might normally ship in an envelope without tracking. Sellers will have to do more bundles, like 5 packs of seeds for 5.00.
This fee could be eBay's way of removing these lower priced items because in the not too distant future eBay might require all shipment to have tracking? Just speculation. I have no knowledge that this is what they are planning.
eBay has to weigh these changes and fees for the good and bad they create. It will not be good for some sellers but most should be able to find ways to make it work for them.
Good Luck Selling!
You keep assuming this only will affect low $$ items. I suppose it really depends on how you define low $$ items and how Ebay defines it. And when a buyer purchases multiple of these low $$ items, is the sale still a low $$ value sale or has it become more???
Any way you want to look at it, it shakes out the same way. NO other site charges any kind of fee like this. NONE. IMHO there is a reason for that. It penalizes both buyers and sellers unnecessarily.
Maybe it isn't that Ebay wants to get rid of whatever you are defining low $$ items, but maybe it is Ebay wanting to lessen the number of listings on the site. Asian sellers being among the most effective sellers of the low $$ items and zillions of listings.
I have no idea what Ebay's reasons are behind this move and they aren't talking as I've asked this questions a few times and no answer has ever been offered.
@tsme35 wrote:I won't opt in, half my stuff I sell goes by combine shipping, it'll raise my fees $75-$125 per month. When I do I'll have to add .30 to my combined shipping rate and with increase postage plus states taxes I won't be selling online much longer. Us small sellers are a dieing breed
Sales tax is a fact of life on the entire internet. Something buyers will get use to. It should affect how any seller prices their items as sellers are paying the sales tax, buyers are.
You need to add more than 30 cents to your combined shipping rate. That won't help much unless your sale was for two separate listings. If you are combining 10 purchases from separate listings, your fees will be a 2.50 transaction fee plus the 2.7% processing fee [on total amount being paid to you].
You need to add 29 cents to each item you sell to cover the 25 cent fee plus the FVFs you will pay on the price increase and the additional payment processing fee [2.7%] on your price increase.
@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
The whole point is that this is supposed to be a payment processing fee. Not only is ebay NOT the payment "processor", but no other payment processor charges a fee per item in a payment transaction.
YES. I said something similar earlier in the thread, but this is such and excellent point!!
I might just add that it is highly unlikely that this unusual fee is NOT something that Ebay is being charged by Adyen. If this were to be some kind of fee that Adyen was charging Ebay, then one would logically think it would be something they charge to other similar sites. Yet Etsy uses Adyen and there is no such 25 cent fee on the Etsy site.
So that leads me to the conclusion that it is ALL ABOUT EBAY and just a way to impose a fee hike. One would think that Ebay would realize this is something that will further erode their working relationship with sellers. Ebay has told us many times that MP will be less expensive for sellers than the current PP driven system. Apparently they failed to share that they only intended that to apply to some sellers and not all. For many smaller sellers the fees will actually increase significantly.
I wonder, will there be special provisions for all the Asian sellers.
@tunicaslot wrote:
@goodluckselling wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@goodluckselling wrote:
@mvls1 wrote:I just received the offer to join managed payments today and carefully read the offer details. As the original poster has stated, you will be charged .25 per ITEM not per transaction! It is very specific in the offer details that the .25 applies for each item in the order.
If the buyer buys several from the same listing and or a variation listing you will only get a 0.25 fee for the single item number not each purchase.
It really should be looked at as per transaction per item number fee. Same item number purchases inside the same transaction will have the single 0.25 fee.
Good Luck Selling!
Yes you are absolutely correct. But for some sellers this is going to be a huge fee to contend with. At a minimum sellers will need to raise their pricing my at least 28 cents to cover the listing transaction fee and the selling fees since you need to raise your sales price. By itself, it doesn't at all look like much. But for sellers of low $$ items it is a huge issue.
Yes I understand. I am grandfathered into MP so I will not have this fee when it starts but I also am not for this policy. I asked eBay staff (weekly chat) about it when it was added to the payment terms of use with a generic answer and I doubt they will answer any more about it in the weekly chat.
My best guess is that these lower priced single item listings are not generating enough business? Sellers will need to find a solution for these kinds of listings. Sellers should consider smaller discounts for combined shipping to help cover these extra costs.
Maybe start adding a handling fee to cover this cost?
Good Luck Selling!
You are grandfathered until you are no longer grandfathered which could be in as little as a month after everyone is opted in. You know better than to believe things they say!
I believe a lot of people are misinterpreting the "grandfathered in" clause. I took a screenshot of our invite. Here you go:
"Grandfathered in" only applies until October. Then it's the same fees as everyone else.
