07-15-2019 01:30 PM - edited 07-15-2019 01:33 PM
Does everyone realize they are going to charge 25 cents per item in any given transaction. For example if a buyer buys 10 different packs of seeds from me and checkouts with one payment in one transaction paypal charges me 2.9% plus 30 cents period!. If you use ebay managed payment for that same transaction ebay charges you 2.7% and 25 cents for each item so in other words 25 cents times 10 items whereas paypal only charges 30 cents one time no matter how many items are in a single transaction. That is outrageous. On a $1 item they are taking 1/4 of my items price just on the fee so with paypal that would cost me 59 cents for the fees just for the payment, Ebay would charge me $2.79 just for the fees on the payment of 10.00 in sales that had 10 items in it. That does not even include the 9.15% fee they will charge for the regular fees which would be 91 cents more. Are they nuts? That is facts people. You better read very carefully before you switch to it and when ebay makes it mandatory i will be leaving ebay for good. Ebay you have become nothing more than greedy thieves. Again those are the facts people. If you sell cheap small items it will destroy your business or you will have to raise your prices even higher and why would people want to pay even higher on ebay when they can get the same item from the same seller who are on better marketplaces with cheaper prices. Ebay this is the last nail in your coffin. Whoever is leading you with these new policies they are going to put you right out of business as other marketplaces are already putting a hurting on you. Ebay you better wise up. No way you will ever get 25 cents per item on a single transaction from me with multiple items in it that should be only one fee as it is one transaction. You want us to give good combined shipping prices to buyers and then your going to try and pull this nonsense. Not with my business you will not.
07-15-2019 02:36 PM
@goodluckselling wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@goodluckselling wrote:
@mvls1 wrote:I just received the offer to join managed payments today and carefully read the offer details. As the original poster has stated, you will be charged .25 per ITEM not per transaction! It is very specific in the offer details that the .25 applies for each item in the order.
If the buyer buys several from the same listing and or a variation listing you will only get a 0.25 fee for the single item number not each purchase.
It really should be looked at as per transaction per item number fee. Same item number purchases inside the same transaction will have the single 0.25 fee.
Good Luck Selling!
Yes you are absolutely correct. But for some sellers this is going to be a huge fee to contend with. At a minimum sellers will need to raise their pricing my at least 28 cents to cover the listing transaction fee and the selling fees since you need to raise your sales price. By itself, it doesn't at all look like much. But for sellers of low $$ items it is a huge issue.
Yes I understand. I am grandfathered into MP so I will not have this fee when it starts but I also am not for this policy. I asked eBay staff (weekly chat) about it when it was added to the payment terms of use with a generic answer and I doubt they will answer any more about it in the weekly chat.
My best guess is that these lower priced single item listings are not generating enough business? Sellers will need to find a solution for these kinds of listings. Sellers should consider smaller discounts for combined shipping to help cover these extra costs.
Maybe start adding a handling fee to cover this cost?
Good Luck Selling!
You will as of October 1st.
If you successfully complete the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) on or after June 4, 2019 (starting at 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time): Your payments processing fees are calculated as (i) the payments processing rate plus (ii) $0.25 per listing sold (the “per listing payments fee”). Notwithstanding the foregoing clause (ii), for sellers who onboard to managed payments on or after June 4, 2019 the per listing payments fee is waived through September 30, 2019 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time (11:59 PM plus 59 seconds) and will take effect beginning October 1, 2019 at 00:00:00 Pacific Time (12:00 AM).
I've already said that sellers need to increase their pricing to cover the additional fees. Whether it is the product price of S&H, it doesn't really matter. Sellers just need to increase pricing to cover the fee.
07-15-2019 02:39 PM
Oh I forgot to add it doesn't just affect $2 listings. That was just an example I used. I often have buyers that purchase higher $$ books that purchase several different ones. As another poster brought up, it is often more common in certain categories. And pricing for these items can be from dirt cheap to more expensive.
07-15-2019 02:42 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@goodluckselling wrote:
Yes I understand. I am grandfathered into MP so I will not have this fee when it starts but I also am not for this policy. I asked eBay staff (weekly chat) about it when it was added to the payment terms of use with a generic answer and I doubt they will answer any more about it in the weekly chat.
My best guess is that these lower priced single item listings are not generating enough business? Sellers will need to find a solution for these kinds of listings. Sellers should consider smaller discounts for combined shipping to help cover these extra costs.
Maybe start adding a handling fee to cover this cost?
Good Luck Selling!
You will as of October 1st.
If you successfully complete the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) on or after June 4, 2019 (starting at 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time): Your payments processing fees are calculated as (i) the payments processing rate plus (ii) $0.25 per listing sold (the “per listing payments fee”). Notwithstanding the foregoing clause (ii), for sellers who onboard to managed payments on or after June 4, 2019 the per listing payments fee is waived through September 30, 2019 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time (11:59 PM plus 59 seconds) and will take effect beginning October 1, 2019 at 00:00:00 Pacific Time (12:00 AM).
I've already said that sellers need to increase their pricing to cover the additional fees. Whether it is the product price of S&H, it doesn't really matter. Sellers just need to increase pricing to cover the fee.
Read the paragraph before the one you are quoting. It specifically tells about sellers opted in before June 4th will have a set price.
If (a) you have successfully completed the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) prior to 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time on June 4, 2019 and (b) your eBay account has remained continuously enabled for managed payments: Your payments processing fees are calculated as 2.7% of the total order amount, including shipping, handling, sales tax and other amounts owed (the “payments processing rate”).
Good Luck Selling!
07-15-2019 02:58 PM
@goodluckselling wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@goodluckselling wrote:
Yes I understand. I am grandfathered into MP so I will not have this fee when it starts but I also am not for this policy. I asked eBay staff (weekly chat) about it when it was added to the payment terms of use with a generic answer and I doubt they will answer any more about it in the weekly chat.
My best guess is that these lower priced single item listings are not generating enough business? Sellers will need to find a solution for these kinds of listings. Sellers should consider smaller discounts for combined shipping to help cover these extra costs.
Maybe start adding a handling fee to cover this cost?
Good Luck Selling!
You will as of October 1st.
If you successfully complete the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) on or after June 4, 2019 (starting at 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time): Your payments processing fees are calculated as (i) the payments processing rate plus (ii) $0.25 per listing sold (the “per listing payments fee”). Notwithstanding the foregoing clause (ii), for sellers who onboard to managed payments on or after June 4, 2019 the per listing payments fee is waived through September 30, 2019 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time (11:59 PM plus 59 seconds) and will take effect beginning October 1, 2019 at 00:00:00 Pacific Time (12:00 AM).
I've already said that sellers need to increase their pricing to cover the additional fees. Whether it is the product price of S&H, it doesn't really matter. Sellers just need to increase pricing to cover the fee.
Read the paragraph before the one you are quoting. It specifically tells about sellers opted in before June 4th will have a set price.
If (a) you have successfully completed the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) prior to 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time on June 4, 2019 and (b) your eBay account has remained continuously enabled for managed payments: Your payments processing fees are calculated as 2.7% of the total order amount, including shipping, handling, sales tax and other amounts owed (the “payments processing rate”).
Good Luck Selling!
My bad. You are correct. It is only affecting those that enter MP on or after June 4th.
07-15-2019 03:02 PM
Isn't that cheaper than paypal?
07-15-2019 03:06 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@goodluckselling wrote:
You will as of October 1st.
If you successfully complete the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) on or after June 4, 2019 (starting at 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time): Your payments processing fees are calculated as (i) the payments processing rate plus (ii) $0.25 per listing sold (the “per listing payments fee”). Notwithstanding the foregoing clause (ii), for sellers who onboard to managed payments on or after June 4, 2019 the per listing payments fee is waived through September 30, 2019 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time (11:59 PM plus 59 seconds) and will take effect beginning October 1, 2019 at 00:00:00 Pacific Time (12:00 AM).
I've already said that sellers need to increase their pricing to cover the additional fees. Whether it is the product price of S&H, it doesn't really matter. Sellers just need to increase pricing to cover the fee.
Read the paragraph before the one you are quoting. It specifically tells about sellers opted in before June 4th will have a set price.
If (a) you have successfully completed the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) prior to 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time on June 4, 2019 and (b) your eBay account has remained continuously enabled for managed payments: Your payments processing fees are calculated as 2.7% of the total order amount, including shipping, handling, sales tax and other amounts owed (the “payments processing rate”).
Good Luck Selling!
My bad. You are correct. It is only affecting those that enter MP on or after June 4th.
It maybe only for a short time frame? eBay is not talking so who knows? eBay still reserves the right to amend the policy giving users a 14 day notice before the changes go into effect. Probably will happen right before the holiday season gets going full steam?
Good Luck Selling!
07-15-2019 03:09 PM
@tdumonde2014 wrote:Isn't that cheaper than paypal?
Yes for SINGLE purchases it is. PP is a 30 cent transaction fee and 2.9% processing fees. MP is 25 cent transaction fee and 2.7% processing fee.
So yes on a SINGLE purchase or if a buyer purchases multiple items from a SINGLE listing, you do save a little on the payment processing fees overall.
But if you have a buyer purchase from different listings it is different. Let's say a buyer purchases your Lone Ranger card, a Xena card and a Disney Card. That is 3 different listings the buyer purchased from and even if they pay for them all in one payment, you will have a 25 cent transaction fee for each item purchased. So you will have a 75 cent transaction fee and then of course the 2.7% processing fee. So your transaction fee is 3x as much even though it was a single payment.
07-15-2019 04:06 PM
I believe you are correct and the new .25 per listing will apply to everyone in the future. I remember reading that even sellers previously signed up before June 4th will also be charged. I don't remember where exactly I read it, but I do believe remember reading it.
07-15-2019 04:11 PM
I posted the exact words a few posts back.
07-15-2019 04:12 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@toooldtorock wrote:"ebay charges you 2.7% and 25 cents for each item"
That doesn't sound right.
Unfortunately it is correct. If a buyer purchases a few items off of one of your listings, then the transaction fee remains 25 cents. But if the buyer purchases from several different listings, then they will be charging 25 cents PER listing transaction.
I have no idea why Ebay thinks this is a good idea other than it will make some serious money for them. There isn't ANY other money processor that even comes close to charging fees like this.
Ebay once bragged that it's payment process would save sellers money to a process that has higher fees than ANY other processing service out there for sellers that typically deal with buyers of multiple items.
eBay needs to come up with money to pay out quarterly dividends to it's shareholders, with the biggest payouts going to the leadership team.
If eBay was communicating/bragging that it's payment process would save sellers money in any way and the opposite is true. Sellers should look into the Promissory Estoppel doctrine.
07-15-2019 04:21 PM
You may want to review the User's Agreement you agreed to when you signed up for the site.
07-15-2019 04:35 PM
User agreement aside, how is it reasonable to charge sellers .25 per listing more than early MP enrollies if you would not allow ALL sellers access to MP? Then if they turned it down too bad for them.
07-15-2019 04:38 PM
@mvls1 wrote:User agreement aside, how is it reasonable to charge sellers .25 per listing more than early MP enrollies if you would not allow ALL sellers access to MP? Then if they turned it down too bad for them.
Beats me. I never said it was.
As for turning down MP. While that is an option now. In the near future it won't be, it will be mandatory in about a year or so.
07-15-2019 04:50 PM
07-15-2019 06:27 PM
@mam98031 wrote:I have no idea why Ebay thinks this is a good idea other than it will make some serious money for them. There isn't ANY other money processor that even comes close to charging fees like this.
Etsy works in a very similar fashion, according to my friend who sells there. The way she explained it, if you get multiple sales off a single listing, you are charged a "relisting" fee for every one of them that sells. In other words, if you make a listing with a quantity of 5 and someone buys 3, you are charged $.20 for each of those three items. The fee is per item sold regardless of whether it comes from the same listing or from different listings.