09-14-2021 02:30 PM
I thought they had 14 days. I have one that received their item 9/1 and filed a return that day. A new watch, Said it wasn't running. It was new so it shouldn't have been running. Still in box. But, I accept returns for any reason and pay for return. So, no problem. Ebay sent me the notice and it says they gave the buyer until 9/16 to mail it. Well, it hasn't been mailed. But, now it looks like Ebay changed the notice and gave them until 10/15. What? Another month after they filed the return? When did Ebay change this?
09-15-2021 03:12 PM - edited 09-15-2021 03:14 PM
@bigdeals.etc wrote:
That supports my theory that eBay is purposely moving all these dates and time windows around to confuse the seller so we would just leave it be, let eBay hold our money for an indeterminate amount of time, or even give up and just refund the buyer. Well played eBay 🙂
Yeah, it seems they are moving in that direction,
35 business days (On top of time item used before opening return request) for a buyer to rent your item for free and then return it is beyond ridiculous.
The longer it takes to receive your item back, the bigger chance the item will be used, abused, destroyed or not,
So just refund the buyer already and let them keep the item...
09-15-2021 03:42 PM - edited 09-15-2021 03:44 PM
velvet@ebay wrote:Great question @coffeebean832! I was just talking about this in another post the other day. It can take up to 35 business days and you can go here for more about the return timeframes we have in place.
Keeping with the "under promise and over deliver" motto (I've heard agents mention this too, I think I referenced that earlier in this thread)... wouldn't it create less trouble/doubt if you just say "It can will take up to 35 business days and you can go here for more about the return timeframes we have in place."?
Then if it closes in less than 35, the seller is happy no?
09-16-2021 08:07 AM
@coffeebean832 wrote:
velvet@ebay wrote:
Great question @coffeebean832! I was just talking about this in another post the other day. It can take up to 35 business days and you can go here for more about the return timeframes we have in place.Hi velvet@ebay- Thanks for the reply. Could you please clarify on a couple of points-
1- Can you please review all the posts from this link- CS has opened tech tickets and sellers whose returns have already been open a month are seeing 30 business day extensions added. Please provide some insight on that.
2- Another issue is the policy itself being changed with zero notice to sellers. As of 1 year ago- the policy from the 2020 Spring Seller Update was in effect. eBay appears to have changed the policy in November without warning.
As a reminder- this is from the Spring 2020 Update-
When buyers are sent an eBay-generated return label, the return is closed if the label is not printed within 10 business days. If the buyer prints the label, we allow the return to remain open an additional 5 business days to ensure shipping scans are captured. When buyers are not sent an eBay-generated return label, we wait up to 35 business days before closing the return.
August 2020 policy-
Current policy that changed in November without warning-
Happy to help where I can @coffeebean832!
1. Out of the usernames in that thread that are also eBay accounts, I could find none that had claims being kept open past 35 business days. One of them noted a claim was opened against them on 9/13 and they were told it would close on 10/26. That's actually 31 business days, so they are within the 35 business day window. It appears we may be giving a more accurate picture as to when the claim will close. I'm sorry for any confusion this may have caused, and if you see anyone having funds held past 35 business days, please be sure to let us know so we can have that looked into.
2. We rely on shipping scans to follow the progress of a returned item. Sometimes this information is either delayed or not shared with us. This means a buyer may have shipped the return without us being aware of it.
Because of this, our system only closes a return once the appropriate time has passed. This is an automatic process and ensures the returns experience follows similar paths for every member.
Most returns close in 10 to 15 business days, depending on what actions the buyer has taken, such as viewing or printing a label as noted in the help page verbiage you shared here. If the return is being shipped using something other than an eBay label though, it may remain open for up to 35 business days.
In the end, if the buyer fails to return the item in the time allowed, the case will close and no further action will be required from you. We can't get much more specific then what's already been provided, but hopefully the info helps.
09-16-2021 08:35 AM
Thanks velvet@ebay and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here- but point 2 wasn't about clarifying the current policy. It was about the fact that a specific policy was announced with the Spring 2020 update- then in November 2020 eBay changed that policy again but did not tell sellers- they just quietly changed the policy and the policy page with no announcement of any kind. I hope you can see why that's problematic.
09-16-2021 08:57 AM
velvet@ebay wrote:1. Out of the usernames in that thread that are also eBay accounts, I could find none that had claims being kept open past 35 business days. One of them noted a claim was opened against them on 9/13 and they were told it would close on 10/26. That's actually 31 business days, so they are within the 35 business day window.
That's actually 30 business days:
From Monday, September 13, 2021 + 30 business days
Columbus Day (Monday, October 11, 2021)
Result: Tuesday, October 26, 2021
eBay has simply switched from requiring the buyer to mail the return in 10 business days, now to showing a return-by date in 30 business days instead. The examples posted in this and the other threads on this topic all calculate to a due date 30 business days exactly from the date the return label is made available.
09-16-2021 09:25 AM
Does anybody know what buyers are being shown? Are they still being shown 10 business days or do they now see 30 business days?
09-16-2021 09:28 AM
I don't worry about it, either it arrives one day and I have to issue a refund or it times out and eaby restores my funds, go on with life, not worth fretting over these things.
09-16-2021 03:02 PM
@coffeebean832 wrote:
Thanks velvet@ebay and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here- but point 2 wasn't about clarifying the current policy. It was about the fact that a specific policy was announced with the Spring 2020 update- then in November 2020 eBay changed that policy again but did not tell sellers- they just quietly changed the policy and the policy page with no announcement of any kind. I hope you can see why that's problematic.
Hey @coffeebean832! Thanks for clarifying, I really appreciate it. It helps me better understand your context and I'll be sure to pass your feedback on.
09-17-2021 02:15 PM - edited 09-17-2021 02:44 PM
09-17-2021 02:18 PM
Thanks for the update- that clarifies what I asked about in post 36.
09-18-2021 07:30 PM
Soon, eBay will just require sellers to give people stuff for free.
09-18-2021 07:33 PM
Well, do you or do you not have an "ask ebay to step in and help" button on that transaction?
What was that famous Reagan quote, regarding the scariest sentence in the English language:
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Well, I can't think of anything scarier than eBay "helping" me make a sale.
09-18-2021 07:34 PM
That supports my theory that eBay is purposely moving all these dates and time windows around to confuse the seller so we would just leave it be, let eBay hold our money for an indeterminate amount of time, or even give up and just refund the buyer. Well played eBay
Agree totally.
09-18-2021 07:37 PM
The longer it takes to receive your item back, the bigger chance the item will be used, abused, destroyed or not,
So just refund the buyer already and let them keep the item...
Just each item with a personal check included for the price of the item.
There.
Solved.
Give stuff away.
09-24-2021 09:52 AM
@coffeebean832 wrote:Thanks velvet@ebay and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here- but point 2 wasn't about clarifying the current policy. It was about the **bleep**
Thanks **bleep**
eBay announced a change in **bleep**
velvet@ebay said she'd post an update to the chat thread- I hope she'll also post the update here **bleep**