I just want to rant

[mdf_jersey]

So, I got suspended yesterday for 7 days, due to transactions out of Ebay. Fair enough . Ebay makes the rules. I sell higher end sport jerseys ranging in price of $300 to 6-8-$1000. Before you think, Wow I wish I can make money like that, let me say its not like I sell one everyday, especially today, and I have my cost into these items as well. When I sell a jersey for lets say $400 , ebay takes there 15-20% , and Pay Pal takes there ( whatever it is ) cut, which would work out to around $80  after all is done. To me that is a lot of money. Consider a seller who sells an item for $10 . His / her cost would be $2 to sell that item. If I sold an item for $1000 , my cost would be $200.

There is something wrong here. For both sellers we get the exact same service and tools to sell. There should be a cap somewhere.

I have been suspended for selling outside of Ebay. Did I learn anything?Your **bleep** right I will do it again, and will be smarter about it. If Ebay would give me a better percentage on my sold costs , then sure I am all about giving them their fair cut, and would have to look at ways of saving ton their absorbent fees.. 

Iknow , some of you are going to say, well why not leave Ebay, or that's the deal you signed up for. Which is fine. I get it. I guess I am just a rebel...Thanks for reading my rant.

[clu3]

The person selling a $10 item is paying a FAR greater percentage of each sale due to the 30 cent PayPal transaction fee.  I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

[sapphireseal]

Not sure.  I guess I would just hope that buyer would use your personal email (assuming it was on the business card).  eBay can definitely make mistakes and there have been sellers who came here complaining about getting punished when they actually didn't break the rules.

[2012sincity]

Wow!!!! Your fee was exactly what you agreed to when you signed up for eBay. Why do you think it is unfair now? Are you entitled to a discount for selling a high end item? I wouldn't buy anything from you, regardless of the price. You have nothing to rant about and when you get caught again, I hope you are permanently banned from the site.

Wow , maybe read my rant thoroughly before commenting. What part of the understanding of rant don't you understand. Where I can appreciate others disagreeing with my and some understanding, as this is a discussion board, who are you to make accusations of my character. Do you know me. Its like me calling you a stupid ass. That would be unfair wouldnt it.

You may not agree with me and that's fine, but don't allow people like this to attack those who want a voice, or just a rant.

[nmemoryof]

You are missing the big picture.  eBay gets a percentage because eBay takes a risk with each and every transaction AND because eBay finds a buyer for your expensive items.  It's both.  It would be totally unfair for eBay to get $2 to

1.  Find a buyer for your $1000 item; and

2. Take the risk of carrying a guarantee, offering customer service for problems, etc...for your $1000 item.

Who will you run to if you have a problem?  eBay.

Who will the buyer call if he has a problem?  eBay.  Before you say "Well I don't want eBay to help the buyer" let me point out that without that protection, your buyer isn't going to send you any money.  He'll look elsewhere.

If you want the service, pay up.  Otherwise get your own website and do it all yourself.

[tcscollectibles1]

When I signed up 18 years ago...these werent the fees...Ebay just automatically does updates which dont require approval...Ebay aint your friend bubba...and you dont know diddly squat hiram

[tcscollectibles1]

If Ebay banned me today...it would save me money...ban away Ebay

[2012sincity]

I can agree with that. That being said , do we not also take the risk. Im am sure you have heard many stories of sellers getting ripped off by the buyer and Ebay bails on them. I know this from my own experiences.

I had a guy return my item, but instead of sending back my item. He sent a dirty shirt and a catalogue. Tried to get ebay to do something, but no luck. So we all take risks. 

[sin-n-dex]

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@candd205 wrote:

You get their attention if you get a message from someone on ebay about the item, then you delete the listing. 

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That depends what the messages you exchange say... I've gotten many "wrong photos" or "wrong details" messages where I needed to delete it because it was too complicated to fix in 60 seconds. Never been given a warning, but I thank the seller for pointing this out. Having things pointed out is helpful... mistakes can cause SNADS by people who know what they're getting, but use your lack of knowledge against you. (Which is why I put a disclaimer in my world coin listings that I don't read other languages and you're getting the coin shown, even if the details on the holder are not correct... simply because I don't read other languages.

Cheers, C.

[nmemoryof]

The fees are extremely reasonable for what you get.  Yes they have increased somewhat, but so has the efficiency of the website.  It is WAY easier to list things now than it was 20 years ago.  All of that costs money.  You can buy your postage thru eBay. Uploading pictures is a BREEZE now, while it used to be rather complicated.  You've got a whole office full of people taking phone calls about problems.   You've got this forum where you can rant.  They offer training.  The list of what eBay does for both buyer and seller is very long.  You expect them to do this for nothing?  Either work the cost of their service into the cost of your goods or get outta Dodge.  Don't cry to us if you get caught cheating.  Cheating in this way is the same as stealing.  You are stealing from eBay.

[nmemoryof]

Of course we also take a risk.  Our risk is far less with eBay than without eBay.  OK, yes, there needs to be better seller protections.  They are working on that.  That's part of what they do with our fees.  They make adjustments, and then more adjustments, and then more....because each adjustment brings unintended consequences.  It's not an easy job.  When you really think about all they do, you see that their fees are quite reasonable.  And the risk is tied to the amount. 

[2012sincity]

Well lets just say that we agree to disagree. Sure Ebay is always looking at better BUYER protection, unfortunately i will have to disagree with the seller protection. Again I will agree that it has gotten somewhat better but I see a lot of areas where there needs improvement on the selling side. We both have been on Ebay a long time, and where I am glad for you that you are some what happy with Ebay's progress, I on the other hand, have always viewed Ebay's interest solely as Ebay's interest. Changes on ebay (to me) have always been on the interest of the bottom line.

[nmemoryof]

It's not a charity.  They exist to make money just as sellers are here to make money for themselves.  I've heard lots of people complain about eBay wanting to make money.  Why is that bad?  That's what businesses do.

While it is true that buyer protections have spent some time being blind to buyer fraud, you should not forget that buyer protections get you sales.  This is especially true for higher priced items.  I have purchased some high priced items on eBay that I would absolutely not have purchased without the protections. 

First you have the functioning website and a worldwide market that you're paying for.  Then you have the protections and many other things.  You are always free to go it alone.  Sell your stuff without eBay.  But don't come here and steal their services.  That is not fair to anyone.

[tcscollectibles1]

Cheating whom ?

[tcscollectibles1]

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@nmemoryof wrote:

Of course we also take a risk.  Our risk is far less with eBay than without eBay.  OK, yes, there needs to be better seller protections.  They are working on that.  That's part of what they do with our fees.  They make adjustments, and then more adjustments, and then more....because each adjustment brings unintended consequences.  It's not an easy job.  When you really think about all they do, you see that their fees are quite reasonable.  And the risk is tied to the amount. 

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Thank you Leroy Ebay...
What a crock...lol

[tcscollectibles1]

They also force you to use PayPal...on and off Ebay co...cant even accept the type of payment...rules galore...Guess what I pay them...they dont pay me