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Can they be dodgy buyers/scan

I was selling two Apple iPhones 12

2 separate listings, but one buyer has purchased both phones .

They’ve paid straight away 

but my guts telling me something is fishy here, why would purchase two exact same phones of me , at same time

They have paid straight away 

and when I asked their buyer, they sad one for her brother & one for her son

should I be worried 🤔

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     Cell phones are one of the favorite targets of scammers and while your buyer may be legitimate it is a high seller risk item. If you go through with the sale make sure you retain the IMEI numbers for the phones in case this is a scam so you can report them to the IMEI blacklist as stolen. This basically renders the phone useless to the scammer. 

     How  old is your buyers account and where are they located. You are in the UK and I cannot see your listings so I have no idea how much you sold the phones for or what type they are but based on some of the cell phone scammer postings on this forum it does not seem to matter all that much. Personally I would never list a cell phone on eBay or any other high value electronic device. 

     You biggest risk is a NAD chargeback by the buyer that almost always results in the buyer being fully refunded without having to return the item. 

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@summermeadows70 wrote:

I was selling two Apple iPhones 12

should I be worried 🤔


You should be prepared to lose your entire investment in the two phones.

 

This principle applies to anything that is sold on eBay by any seller. 

 

Personally, I am not brave enough to sell electronics.

eBay seller since 1999. This is a posting ID.
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I would never ever as in NEVER sell phones, high dollar shoes or high end jewelry on ANY online venue, especially e Bay.  

This quest stands on the edge of a blade...stray but a little and you shall fail to the ruin of us all.
"The Lady Galadriel"
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I get a cold sweat when I sell any phone over £100.

 

Here you have a pair of iPhone 12 mini's for £440. Best you can do, apart from selling somewhere else, is take every precaution with the shipping and keep your fingers crossed.

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@summermeadows70 if you do go through with sending them I would send with ADULT signature required just to cover my self in the event of a credit card charge back.  IDK if it would help but it surely won't hurt.  Just maje sure you tell the "buyer" that is how you are sending them

This quest stands on the edge of a blade...stray but a little and you shall fail to the ruin of us all.
"The Lady Galadriel"
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Thank you, that’s been very helpful . Not thought about taking the IMEI numbers , so I will do that , no matter who I sell too 

the phones went for around £230 & £190 

it’s says they’ve been on eBay since 2015 & have 85 all positive reviews & never sold anything 

the reason it makes me suspicious is that they bought both my phones 

i dont feel comfortable with that 🤔

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I don't sell electronics here, but the way I look at it is this--any buyers can be dodgy or scammers.  The only thing I can control is how much money I can lose in that situation.  I have a few pricey items for sale, but they are books (not a high scam category) and I didn't pay very much for them.

evry1nositswindy  •  seller since 2013
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 I have bought 2 identical phones at the same, for my husband and myself in the past.  You have a good amount of feedback, while scammers often look for new sellers.  I hope you looked at the buyers feedback and googled their location before you shipped.  Other than that, you have to fill their order.

Don't worry without reason. 

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@dbfolks166mt wrote:

You are in the UK and I cannot see your listings so I have no idea how much you sold the phones for or what type they are but based on some of the cell phone scammer postings on this forum it does not seem to matter all that much.


@dbfolks166mt - FYI, the way to see listings on ebay UK is to highlight and change the URL from .com to .co.uk.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_blrs=recall_filtering&_ssn=summermeadow...

 

@summermeadows70 

Although the 12 mini phones aren't as popular among real customers as the larger ones, they aren't unpopular enough to deter scammers. 

 

And in this case, in looking at the anonymized bidding history of the buyer, I'm suspicious enough that if these were my items, I'd cancel. 

https://www.ebay.com/bmgt/ViewBidderProfile?&mode=1&item=116253280527&bidtid=2444531543001&_trksid=p...

 

I can't tell if they won all those (7) phones and if they just want to and are losing to other snipers, it may not be a problem. But they've been sniping other phones in addition to yours. 

 

albertabrightalberta
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Yes I would be worried cell phones a scam magnet.

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@summermeadows70 wrote:

Thank you, that’s been very helpful . Not thought about taking the IMEI numbers , so I will do that , no matter who I sell too 

the phones went for around £230 & £190 

it’s says they’ve been on eBay since 2015 & have 85 all positive reviews & never sold anything 

the reason it makes me suspicious is that they bought both my phones 

i dont feel comfortable with that 🤔


I'd make you really uncomfortable then since I have bought phones for me, my husband and my daughter all at once.

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@summermeadows70 

Typically in the US, many scams on cell phone purchases arrive in your lap AFTER THE FACT, with phony claims of "item not as described" and phony proof of return issues.   The buyers DO have the front money to play, with the intention of eventually getting the product for free.  Very often as well they are perpetrated by buyers that are out of the US, and have items shipped to a US freight forwarder address.  Other than the shipping location address vs the country of origin of the buyer there is no other way to PREDICT if the sale will be fine, or not.  We are no longer allowed to know if the buyer bought 16 IPhones in last two months, and got feedback for ONE from some seller that left feedback when paid. 

 

I have no idea if UK sellers are faced with similar situations, or have any eBay protocol to follow should they occur.  There was a UK seller here recently that was wondering why their buyer wanted the product shipped to a (known to us anyway) freight forwarder address in the US. 

All I can offer is some previously posted threads that will provide you an insight into the issues faced here, so you can recognize the pattern, and be prepared should the transaction start to be problematic. You will have time to  ask on the UK boards for information specific to your country's site. 

Good luck! 


https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Buyer-using-USPS-return-scam-Ebay-decided-case-in-buyers-favor...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Help-Miami-Freight-Forwarder-says-wrong-item-sent-and-returnin...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Getting-screwed-over-for-months-as-a-seller-on-on-an-blatant/m...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Ebay-refunded-a-buyer-without-me-getting-my-item-back-from/m-p...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Return-scam-nothing-new/m-p/34302635#M2358896
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/The-new-buyer-scam-and-eBay-s-ignoring-Policy/m-p/34301810#M23...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Return-Scam-so-simple-but-super-effective-What-should-I-do/m-p...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Scam-and-ebay-ignores-it/m-p/34356453#M2372717
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Seller-Beware-of-Buying-amp-Return-Scam/m-p/34386391#M2379744
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Scammed-on-My-First-Major-Sale-A-Buyer-s-Deception-and-Lack-of...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/What-more-proof-could-eBay-possibly-need/m-p/34425944#M2389459
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Need-advice-on-a-customer-return-Never-received-return-and/mp/...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/eBay-messed-up-Lawsuit-en-route/td-p/34547069
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/iPhone-Buyer-Scam-Abuse-of-eBay-Protection/m-p/34568104#M24285...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/iPhone-sale-scammed-by-buyer-Ebay-sided-with-them/m-p/34579951...

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I'd make you really uncomfortable then since I have bought phones for me, my husband and my daughter all at once.

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Thank you, I diddnt no you could do that 

very interesting 

she said to me , they just needed two phone, for her brother & son 

so why would she be bidding on another 7 phones 

I’m just unsure 

Carnt afford to lose out on two phones 

I think I’ll cancel the bid & refund 

as my gutt tells me something not right here 🤔

thank you for looking into that for me 

although I’ve been on eBay’s years 

I diddnt no you could re search someone’s bidding , still learning , thank you 

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