CA Prop 65 Warning - Are there any sellers using the warnings on their listings already?

[upholsteryoutlet]

As a business where we sell Upholstery Fabrics and Vinyls, we are trying to gear up for the new CA Prop 65 warning that goes into effect on August 30th.  Are there any sellers that already have the warnings in place on their listings already?  I would like to see what other sellers are doing to preparte for this new requirement.  In actuality I would like to eliminate selling to CA altogether to avoid the headache but seeing as how we can not eliminate CA, I guess we need to do what we have to do.  Any input and/or feedback is much appreciated.

[myjunqueyourtreasure]

They have to fund the benefits for undocumented "immigrants" somehow.

[jpgranton]

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@aruyt75 wrote:

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@upholsteryoutlet wrote:

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@jnmcnally wrote:
I was inclined to add the warning "just in case," but only people who are familiar with California would understand that California over-reacts. As you point out, buyers in other states might be scared away.

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Gotta love CA! So many times they are the first to cause panic and uproar over nothing.  But really alot of our sales for the business and my personal account come from CA residents so I can't say too much bad about them.

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California also leads the way for other forward-thinking, progessive states and countries, enacting legislation that protects the environment, air and water quality.  I'm a Californian, and though the state is far from perfect, I take pride in the state being a leader of green technology, and protecting our environment.  I'm perfectly fine having laws that protect people from doing what they do best...think of themselves first, and everyone else and everything else be damned.

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That's an interesting term which I see bandied about a lot.  "Progressive" is often tossed about as something superior to whatever now exists, when what it actually means, when used in a political sense, is "incrementally".  Many people with ill intentions have been "progressives", both in this country and in other countires in times past.  Essentially, they want to get from whatever exists now (Point A) to their utopian idea of what they think things should be (Point B), but they know they can't do that in one fell swoop, as the jump would be too jolting to society and there would be a revolt.  So instead, many incremental or "progressive" steps are taken over a long period of time, and often covering generations, in order to reach the desired goal.  Those alive at the start often know they will not see their goals met in their lifetimes, since the process is slow and each small step has to be accepted by society before the next can be launched.  Therefore, it takes generations of people doing the work "progressively" to get there.  In the long game, citizens of later generations don't realize what has been lost or given up earlier and so losing just a little more of what they have left doesn't seem too bad, but that's how the next "progressive" step is made.

I once saw an impressionable young girl who was about to vote for the first time say, "I'm voting for the progressives.  They're for progress!".  (Good grief.)  Movement away from the status quo can occur in any direction, good or bad.  A bad guy in Germany once found a "solution" to progressively "remove" a certain portion of the population he didn't like.  Progressive does not necessarily equal "good".  All it means is incremental movement toward someone else's goal.  A good thing to keep in mind regardless of the time or place in which one lives.

[b86fiero]

When listing a few used hardcover books today the CA Prop 65 Warning box appeared as one of the item specifics on the sell your item form.

Not knowing exactly what to put in that box (and assuming any CA buyers would know what a book is)  I typed in all caps "It's a hardcover book printed in the USA."  That ought to about cover it, right?

[nowthatsjustducky]

You could always just leave it blank.

There is no legal requirement for anyone not operating within or having any business presence in California to comply with this demand.

I treat it like the Country of Origin box, as well as the UPC box on anything that is not new in package; I treat it as optional and ignorable.

[shipscript]

@b86fiero

That ought to cover it. If the prop65 box does not apply to your items, just can just leave it blank. eBay is making that box available to most listing categories so that sellers who need the box will have it.

@upholsteryoutlet

The manufacturer or materials supplier should be able to provide the list of applicable chemicals, if any. If so, you will need to use the box for your line of business. I assume you have looked at the particulars on the State's furniture page to see that Formaldehyde and/or Chlorinated Tris are the typical chemicals used in furniture.

https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/products-places

https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/products/furniture-products

https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/fact-sheets/furniture-products

[tealt]

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@b86fiero wrote:

When listing a few used hardcover books today the CA Prop 65 Warning box appeared as one of the item specifics on the sell your item form.

Not knowing exactly what to put in that box (and assuming any CA buyers would know what a book is)  I typed in all caps "It's a hardcover book printed in the USA."  That ought to about cover it, right?

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Love it!

I just listed a vase in the Antiques : Silver Alloy category, and that same box came up in the item specifics.

Knowing that 99% of buyers (including California residents) wouldn't have a clue what  Prop 65 was, I was tempted to type in something very creative.  But I didn't. 🙂 

[missjen831]

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@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
They have to fund the benefits for undocumented "immigrants" somehow.

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And the high speed train to nowhere that won’t be complete until after we are all dead. 

[southern*sweet*tea]

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@b86fiero wrote:

When listing a few used hardcover books today the CA Prop 65 Warning box appeared as one of the item specifics on the sell your item form.

Not knowing exactly what to put in that box (and assuming any CA buyers would know what a book is)  I typed in all caps "It's a hardcover book printed in the USA."  That ought to about cover it, right?

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WARNING!

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[moondogblues]

"If we didn't own our house and the weather in our area wasn't so good, I'd move out of this stewing swamp of political correctness, high taxes, and overwhelming government regulation."

Born in LA, raised in the SF Bay Area.  I remember smog so bad that you couldn't see the next overpass.  The emissions laws took care of that.  PC, taxes and regulations are there for a reason.  Remember Love Canal, or the river that caught fire?  I do.  Think about Flint Michigan...and now Detroit.  Think about the smog in Mexico City and in areas in China.  No pesky regulations there.

[electronicspart]

Thank you, I looked a the FAQ page and missed that.

[electronicspart]

I live in Calif, and most of my sales are on the east side of the Mississippi. Go figure.

[awishingwell]

I actually could care less whatever california is doing - I'll wait for them to succeed from the union and become a foreign country

[bigchief2472000]

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@awishingwell wrote:

I actually could care less whatever california is doing - I'll wait for them to succeed from the union and become a foreign country

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Sure would be nice if they did.

I haven't even read the proposition to see what exactly it says, but I don't understand how a California law can be enforced on anyone that is not physically in California when they "break" that law.  If they want to prohibit certain things from being sent across their border, they need to set up a customs department and filter through all the mail and reject whatever doesn't fall in line with their new law.

[berserkerplanet]

And the "uhoh!" reactions to the unintended consequences of that poorly thought out law begin:
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/08/after-coffee-brewhaha-ca-fears-cancer-warnings-have-gone-ser...

(I'm in CA - the nanny state )

[toooldtorock]

"California also leads the way for other forward-thinking, progessive states and countries"

They need to stop hot dogging it and just get to the ultimate goal:

Ban people.