01-19-2025 08:09 AM
not sure if YouTube videos are allowed but you can get the full story searching this on YouTube “7700$ ebay scam black vault”
summary: buyer files bank chargeback against 16 year seller and gets to keep 7.7k in items for free without returning, eBays touted seller protection runs for the hills.
I actually had something similar happen to me when a buyer went to their bank saying not as described, eBay let them keep the item, and made me give a full refund to them, and let them continue to use eBay like nothing happened.
shame shame shame
vote with your wallet
01-19-2025 03:43 PM
They could be working together to defraud. You can't believe anything on Social Media
01-19-2025 04:51 PM
"right let me forfeit 30,40,50k in yearly profits to avoid 1-3k in fraud."
It's still a risk regardless. Then we have people coming in this community complaining that they lost the item they sold plus the money.
01-19-2025 07:32 PM
The REAL QUESTION is WHY didn't he have to send the entire set of PSA 9 Graded cards to EBAY Authentication?
01-19-2025 07:56 PM
@cellitnow_com wrote:right let me forfeit 30,40,50k in yearly profits to avoid 1-3k in fraud.
We forfeited similar and more profit in quitting listing here due to theft and crazy fees.
Upside is I took a 25 hr a week job making near as much that includes 3 weeks paid vacation, a week in paid discretionary days, a week in paid sick days, 8 paid holidays, a 401K that matches about 85% of my 10% contribution and full coverage insurance that costs me about $50 a month.
Then there is the time and money we save in not having to create listings, not having to pack and ship, not having to deal with site problems, not having to deal with crazy or thieving buyers, and not having to pay 20% of our selling price in fees - Saving all this time and money allows us to still sell locally at better prices and keep much more of our profit to the point where we had our most profitable season ever this past Christmas. I'm thinking not many ebay sellers can say that.
Thanks ebay for not fixing anything that sucks about the site - It gave us the desire to implement our exit strategy - allowing us to escape with our sanity(whos having fun with Promoted Listings? We started ramping down as it was really ramping up).
01-19-2025 08:07 PM
Probably He picked wholesale lot and not individual cards? I dont see the sold listing in history..
01-20-2025 04:32 AM
We never had an issue at any of our stores with rejecting a chargeback. When people say eBay is out of the picture or eBay cannot do anything that is false. The problem with having a middleman "eBay" is their interest lies before the sellers. Most sellers have no idea how to fight a CC chargeback and with having to go through eBay compounds the difficulties in winning against a false chargeback.
Note that in my response I was focused on INAD chargebacks. EBay does in fact handle a number of chargebacks internally, generally those are the purchase/item not recognized variety and handling an INR chargeback is not all that different from responding to an eBay INR claim. When it comes to INAD chargebacks however it is in both cases a he said, she said situation and eBay is going to favor the buyer and the CC company is going to favor the card holder. In either case the seller is going to loose a INAD chargeback 99% of the time. Following is the chargeback policy for Master Card.
A chargeback is NOT supposed to be the first avenue for buyers and yes eBay could push back on the chargeback stating the buyer never used the eBay process prior to opening the chargeback but as you noted eBay is looking out for their own interests.
01-20-2025 05:21 AM
@ivanhoeinred wrote:is this in the US? you have his address no one who scammed me out of $7700 would not get a visit from me and also would get some nice deliveries to his address like a shipment of manure
I've always mentioned that it wouldn't take some time for someone to take matters in their own hand.