0 feedback non paying bidders how to end problem

[showmecurrency4u]

this has been discussed on this board before but there is only one way to solve the problem for people who do auctions. allow sellers to prohibit people from bidding who have feedback below a certain number.  i dont want a person say that everyone starts at 0 because i already know this.  they can do  buy it now with payment at that time and  within a short time would have enough feedback to buy from any  seller.  almost 100 percent  of the non buyers  have fake names and if a person googles the address it is the middle of a field  or a vacant lot . sometimes i think that some of the comments made against this idea are not real sellers on ebay.  also  why do people say to contact a customer service and the customer service  is not the real customer service maybe this needs to be changed.  why does ebay encourage returns and then dings sellers who accept returns.  maybe seller need to be able to block buyers who have excessive returns. 

[albertabrightalberta]

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@paraquip wrote:

Within certain cites there are certain zipcodes that will with a large degree of certainty have an issue.

Amazon has already has restricted delivery or requires actual signature at the site to combat this.   

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Yes, and Amazon, banks, and grocery chains who've refused deliveries and loans to certain areas have been taken to court for redlining. 

[albertabrightalberta]

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@toomuchstuffagain35 wrote:

But what about the sellers who are unaware of that setting?

Having the venue (platform, whatever) clamp down would protect the newbie sellers  that are the most likely to not be aware.

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Sellers who are unaware of the setting? Shame on those sellers for not reading up on the TOS.

Some sellers may be aware of the ability to block but may not mind the occasional non-payer. Who is Ebay to decide for those sellers who are okay with nonpayment cancellations? They're giving the sellers the ability to block and sellers can decide for themselves whether to take advantage.

[albertabrightalberta]

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@pburn wrote:

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@paraquip wrote:

Within certain cites there are certain zipcodes that will with a large degree of certainty have an issue.

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Ouch! Sounds like the very definition of the old classic redlining to me. That's a scary policy, IYAM, and stereotyping at its worst. 

When ZIP Codes first were introduced, many were concerned those ZIP Codes would be misused for exactly this kind of discrimination. Since that time (circa 1963). there have been countless examples of just that kind of abuse.

With MLK Day being just yesterday, we all might be encouraged to look deeper to see how the misuse of ZIP Codes might not be what they appear to be on the surface.

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My apologies @pburn . I posted before I completed reading the subsequent posts! And you'd already said it beautifully.

[sapphire_studio]

Out of everybody with 0 feedback,  I'm sure less than 1% are scammers.  Maybe 10% are new accounts that plan on building that new account up and probably the majority are guest accounts with somebody who doesn't want to build an account and just wants to Purchase a specific item on a site they rarely use. I don't think it's fair (or economically sane for ebay) to basically limit them from all auctions and make them build up an account purchasing some BIN items like the OP is suggesting.

[theteamsetguy]

@pburn ,

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's very sad that we as a country still have to even think about issues like this today.

[pburn]

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@theteamsetguy wrote:

@pburn ,

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's very sad that we as a country still have to even think about issues like this today.

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And yet some people can still totally deny that systemic racism exists in this country. This abuse of ZIP Codes is a perfect example.

Okay--enough of my off-topic philosophizing.  🤐

[pburn]

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@toomuchstuffagain35 wrote:

But what about the sellers who are unaware of that setting?

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 I'm a firm believer that when one takes on a new job, it's one's responsibility to read the company procedures and operations manual.

There's so much information for new sellers on this site, there are very few areas where one can claim to be unaware of any of the policies, features, options, procedures, etc. A few, yes, but not many.

[onefootflipper]

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@1tuna wrote:

thats an odd comment to make about auctions

I like auctions a lot and always have

you can turn that comment around and say the same about you

how come you have over 5000 feedback but you have 15000 items you cant sell.

what if this time next year you have 20,000 items listed, does that make you a better seller or an accumulator

he who dies with the most unsold items will surely wish they ran some no reserve items to move some merchandise

keep on selling

@onefootflipper

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I have 14,000 long tail $1.99 trading cards that I mostly listed when I was too sick to deal with anything larger. I don't source that sort of merchandise anymore, but I leave them up because I still tend to sell about 10 of them a day which is $300 a month in revenue. My actual functioning ebay is really the other 2000 items.

[dbfolks166mt]

Yes, and Amazon, banks, and grocery chains who've refused deliveries and loans to certain areas have been taken to court for redlining. 

     The lawsuits against banks and real estate companies regarding redlining are easy to find as are the court decisions. Care to provide some links to the Amazon or grocery chains lawsuits and the outcomes? The only one I can find related to Amazon concerns same day delivery. 

[inhawaii]

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@kimbvin-89 wrote:

Done all of those, still happening regularly! Except the fixed price thing. Don’t want to to do that because sone items just work better as an auction. Is eBay trying to get rid of auctions but they don’t  come out and do it? Seems like it, or there is some other scam going on that ebay is in on against their sellers. Hopefully whatever is going on back-fires and the scammers end up out!

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This type mentality just puzzles me.

You do realize that ebay makes money from sellers?

The more sellers, the more sales, the more money for ebay.

[craft-stash]

I agree! Absolutely no reason in 2023 that funds from a CC/BA on file for immediate payment when the AUCTION ends can't be happening!⛃

[paraquip]

I dont really care about the demographics...... nor do I research them.

Facts are true that the big cities have become places where theft is normalized.

So what your suggesting is that I should continue to take losses from these areas so I can charge other customers higher prices to pay for the losses...got it.

Sounds fair to me.

HK

[theteamsetguy]

I’m sure that’s how Target, Walmart, Home Depot, Best Buy, Costco, and etc. do it. They factor in their shrink factor and add to the cost of items they sell. We all pay for it. 

We could all pay for in higher prices or higher taxes for law enforcement and incarceration. It’s probably cheaper in the long run paying higher prices. It costs over 50k is 2022 dollars incarcerate one prisoner on average.

[kimbvin-89]

YES!!! I bid on other online auction websites frequently. Many of them and all have this same policy/process. Payment method on file and it is charged at end of auction. Works perfectly.  It is fraud to bid on an auction that you do not intend on paying for. It is just as bad as shill bidding. Anyone who does this should be banned for non payment immediately.