0 feedback non paying bidders how to end problem

[showmecurrency4u]

this has been discussed on this board before but there is only one way to solve the problem for people who do auctions. allow sellers to prohibit people from bidding who have feedback below a certain number.  i dont want a person say that everyone starts at 0 because i already know this.  they can do  buy it now with payment at that time and  within a short time would have enough feedback to buy from any  seller.  almost 100 percent  of the non buyers  have fake names and if a person googles the address it is the middle of a field  or a vacant lot . sometimes i think that some of the comments made against this idea are not real sellers on ebay.  also  why do people say to contact a customer service and the customer service  is not the real customer service maybe this needs to be changed.  why does ebay encourage returns and then dings sellers who accept returns.  maybe seller need to be able to block buyers who have excessive returns. 

[inhawaii]

I'm a "real" seller.  I have been for 20+ years.

I'm against the idea.  I think it's ridiculous. 

0 feedback buyers are not (and have never been) a problem for me.

I'm sure you're heard this before......

Banning a 0 feedback buyer is like owning a store and refusing to sell to someone who has never bought from you before.

Kinda ridiculous I would say.

[a_c_green]

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@showmecurrency4u wrote:

this has been discussed on this board before but there is only one way to solve the problem for people who do auctions. allow sellers to prohibit people from bidding who have feedback below a certain number. 

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Well, you can't. You can cancel any bids you like before the end of an auction, but someone can still sneak in at the last second with a bid before you can react. You can use your Buyer Requirements settings (here) to block additional purchases within 10 days from buyers having 5 or less feedback, but not a first purchase.

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@showmecurrency4u wrote:

almost 100 percent  of the non buyers  have fake names

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I think we'll need to see your source for that. Please post a link.

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@showmecurrency4u wrote:

and if a person googles the address it is the middle of a field  or a vacant lot. 

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That's highly unlikely, since even a scammer wants to receive their package. Don't worry about whether an address is valid. If you purchase your label through eBay, the address is validated against the USPS database at that time. If the address is fake, the label cannot be printed.

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@showmecurrency4u wrote:

sometimes i think that some of the comments made against this idea are not real sellers on ebay. 

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Posters here who do not have listings on record are usually using posting IDs (such as their buying accounts) in order to avoid occasional problems with others who don't want to hear their answers. Those who post hoping to find only an echo chamber of answers agreeing with them can sometimes be disappointed.

[albertabrightalberta]

Are you aware that every one of buyers who left the 51, 578 feedbacks you received were people who had 0-feedback at one time? 

And although you have 51K feedbacks, you also started without any feedback! 

Aren't you glad people didn't block you when you were a newbie? And aren't you glad all those people who left feedbacks weren't prohibited from buying from you and others?

[onefootflipper]

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@albertabrightalberta wrote:

Are you aware that every one of buyers who left the 51, 578 feedbacks you received were people who had 0-feedback at one time? 

And although you have 51K feedbacks, you also started without any feedback! 

Aren't you glad people didn't block you when you were a newbie? And aren't you glad all those people who left feedbacks weren't prohibited from buying from you and others?

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I find it more amazing that a seller with 51,000 feedback runs auctions at all. 

[pburn]

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@showmecurrency4u wrote:

this has been discussed on this board before but there is only one way to solve the problem for people who do auctions. allow sellers to prohibit people from bidding who have feedback below a certain number. 

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There are a number of ways a seller can reduce or avoid nonpaying customers. Perhaps you've already relied on a couple of them, but here's a list of some of the approaches sellers can utilize:

• List all items as fixed-price, immediate payment required. Do not list with the auction format.
• Remove the "best offer" option from your listings or decline each offer manually--no matter how tempting it appears.
• Make sure to use the cancellation process for members who don't pay within 96 hours/four days. A strike for nonpayment will be recorded on their account. The cancellation process can be done manually or you can set it to cancel for you automatically.
• Set your Buyer Requirements to block any member with two or more strikes in the last twelve months--the most restrictive setting.
• Add the member id to your Blocked Buyer List.

Utilizing these tools will help eliminate unpaid transactions.

[pburn]

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@albertabrightalberta wrote:

Are you aware that every one of buyers who left the 51, 578 feedbacks you received were people who had 0-feedback at one time? 

And although you have 51K feedbacks, you also started without any feedback! 

Aren't you glad people didn't block you when you were a newbie? And aren't you glad all those people who left feedbacks weren't prohibited from buying from you and others?

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Yes, the OP knows this. From the original post:

" i dont want a person say that everyone starts at 0 because i already know this."  😏

[albertabrightalberta]

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@pburn wrote:

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@albertabrightalberta wrote:

Are you aware that every one of buyers who left the 51, 578 feedbacks you received were people who had 0-feedback at one time? 

And although you have 51K feedbacks, you also started without any feedback! 

Aren't you glad people didn't block you when you were a newbie? And aren't you glad all those people who left feedbacks weren't prohibited from buying from you and others?

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Yes, the OP knows this. From the original post:

" i dont want a person say that everyone starts at 0 because i already know this."  😏

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Yup, another OP who only wants to hear what he wants to hear. 

And telling that OP to have FP/IPR isn't the answer he wants to hear.

[reallynicestamps]

almost 100 percent of the non buyers have fake names

What is a "fake name"?

I keep a book of names taken from newspaper reports, because I am a writer and you just can't call everyone John Smith.

Gize Yebeyo Araya.

Jerzy Migras

Katari Righthand.

Soumitra Chatterji

Klaus Finkernagel

Are the first few names on page three of that notebook.  All people who have been in the Globe and Mail in the past year.

Eritrean, Polish, Indigenous Siksika, Indian, and German.

and if a person googles the address it is the middle of a field or a vacant lot .

Americans get very upset when this is mentioned for some reason.

But, while we should remember that Google is not filming everywhere every minute, which means an entire suburb could be built between routes, the seller does have an easy out for this.

Cancel as "problem with address" .

[albertabrightalberta]

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@reallynicestamps wrote:

Cancel as "problem with address" .

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Why? Unless the buyer pays and the address comes up as invalid, choosing that reason for a cancellation isn't accurate, isn't honest and if the buyer IS a legitimate newbie and reports the seller, the seller might find themselves gone from ebay! 

[johnrj1226]

Sometimes you just can't have things your way.

When I sold  on eBay had more problems with folks  that had 3 digit FB than those that  starter with 0.

[soh.maryl]

So, at a time when sellers are bemoaning the lack of buyers, you think it's a good idea to shut off the flow (more like a trickle) of new buyers? 

And, how does eBay "ding" sellers who accept returns? It's not like, with the MBG, in place, any seller has a choice if a buyer opens a NAD case.  

Block buyers who have excessive returns? How would you know that in advance?

PS:  Before you mention that I have no FB as a seller, and therefore shouldn't be commenting, please keep in mind that I may have another ID with a significant record as a seller.  

[kimbvin-89]

Then what is the problem? I am having this same issue! Why are these so called new users bidding on auctions then not paying? Who is getting something out of it? Ebay? Are they trying in a round-about way to get rid of auctions? Idk what is going on except every time a buyer that has little to no feedback bids on my auctions they NEVER end up paying or communicating at all after winning. Yet they are bidding right there until the end, making sure they win. Bidding the price way up.  So if they are bidding it up in the last minutes it means they haven’t forgotten about the auction, so why not pay right then? The only way I see an end to this is to require immediate payment for auctions as well. Every other online auction site does, why does eBay allow 4 days to pay? No other site or platform rather regular commerce or auction style allows such a grace period! It’s ridiculous! You bid in an auction means you are in a binding agreement to buy what you bid on! If it were a live auction you can’t back out if you bid so you should not be able to here. If you do you get banned. End of story.

[ebooksdiva]

Here's a thought stop using auctions.

List only with Buy It Now with Immediate Payment Required.

Problem solved no more non payers. 

What do you mean by "real sellers" ? 

I'm a real seller, just pinched myself to be sure.

[kimbvin-89]

Done all of those, still happening regularly! Except the fixed price thing. Don’t want to to do that because sone items just work better as an auction. Is eBay trying to get rid of auctions but they don’t  come out and do it? Seems like it, or there is some other scam going on that ebay is in on against their sellers. Hopefully whatever is going on back-fires and the scammers end up out!