02-26-2020 10:23 AM
I have generally tried to work with buyers when they request that I ship to an address other than the ebay/PayPal address on file, as I don't think it's good customer service to insist that we cancel the transaction and the buyer change the address on record. However, I understand ebay will no longer protect me if I ship to a requested address, even if I can document the request from the buyer in ebay messages.
Is this correct? And, if so, is ebay working to provide a simple "flow" for the buyer to change the address without the need to cancel and re-buy the item, which is not a great experience for the buyer or the seller?
02-26-2020 10:33 AM
especially around the holidays people buying gifts i do this to keep the hassels to a minimum
02-26-2020 11:57 AM
That is correct. You would lose seller protection in Ebay and in PP. So if you decide you want to do it, it is at your own risk.
With that said, I too would appreciate a better way to handle these requests. As we all know it costs us real money to cancel a transaction [PP fees] and require the buyer to repurchase the item making sure they enter the proper ship to address on the new purchase.
There has to be a better way. This isn't an unusual occurrence here on Ebay.
02-26-2020 03:14 PM
There IS a better way, which I have suggested multiple times to eBay over many years time.
The problem is that the buyer doesn't pay attention to the address put right in front of him at checkouyt. He only notices after he's finished checking out that he's shipping to the wrong address. Almost 100% of the requests for an address change occur within minutes of the payment transaction.
All eBay has to do, is require the buyer to select a ship-to address. Simple. Fine...show the default, but until he clicks the address he wants to use, he can't proceed with checkout. It's perfectly simple and would eliminate this problem sellers have been dealing with (and are now paying for with unrefunded fees) for YEARS.
The last time I recommended this to eBay, the argument that came back was that eBay wants to make checkout easy and fast.
How easy and fast is it for the buyer to have to contact the seller and for the seller to have to reply with an outline of the process and instructions on how to change the address at checkout, then cancel the sale, relist the item, send the new listing # to the buyer (in some cases with an additional listing fee), and wait for the buyer to repurchase, hoping no one else comes along and snags the item. Of course this is assuming the item hasn't been shipped yet (to the wrong address.)
It could all be fixed by requiring one simply little click...
02-26-2020 03:21 PM
@inceptions wrote:There IS a better way, which I have suggested multiple times to eBay over many years time.
The problem is that the buyer doesn't pay attention to the address put right in front of him at checkouyt. He only notices after he's finished checking out that he's shipping to the wrong address. Almost 100% of the requests for an address change occur within minutes of the payment transaction.
All eBay has to do, is require the buyer to select a ship-to address. Simple. Fine...show the default, but until he clicks the address he wants to use, he can't proceed with checkout. It's perfectly simple and would eliminate this problem sellers have been dealing with (and are now paying for with unrefunded fees) for YEARS.
The last time I recommended this to eBay, the argument that came back was that eBay wants to make checkout easy and fast.
How easy and fast is it for the buyer to have to contact the seller and for the seller to have to reply with an outline of the process and instructions on how to change the address at checkout, then cancel the sale, relist the item, send the new listing # to the buyer (in some cases with an additional listing fee), and wait for the buyer to repurchase, hoping no one else comes along and snags the item. Of course this is assuming the item hasn't been shipped yet (to the wrong address.)
It could all be fixed by requiring one simply little click...
They already have something very similar in the Shopping Cart. If you click on Checkout. The next screen shows the item or items you are going to purchase and it shows you YOUR ship to address with a button below it to change the address if you need to. You can do this BEFORE completing the checkout process.
My guess is that many buyers aren't paying attention to the screen in front of them.
02-26-2020 03:35 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@inceptions wrote:There IS a better way, which I have suggested multiple times to eBay over many years time.
The problem is that the buyer doesn't pay attention to the address put right in front of him at checkouyt. He only notices after he's finished checking out that he's shipping to the wrong address. Almost 100% of the requests for an address change occur within minutes of the payment transaction.
All eBay has to do, is require the buyer to select a ship-to address. Simple. Fine...show the default, but until he clicks the address he wants to use, he can't proceed with checkout. It's perfectly simple and would eliminate this problem sellers have been dealing with (and are now paying for with unrefunded fees) for YEARS.
The last time I recommended this to eBay, the argument that came back was that eBay wants to make checkout easy and fast.
How easy and fast is it for the buyer to have to contact the seller and for the seller to have to reply with an outline of the process and instructions on how to change the address at checkout, then cancel the sale, relist the item, send the new listing # to the buyer (in some cases with an additional listing fee), and wait for the buyer to repurchase, hoping no one else comes along and snags the item. Of course this is assuming the item hasn't been shipped yet (to the wrong address.)
It could all be fixed by requiring one simply little click...
They already have something very similar in the Shopping Cart. If you click on Checkout. The next screen shows the item or items you are going to purchase and it shows you YOUR ship to address with a button below it to change the address if you need to. You can do this BEFORE completing the checkout process.
My guess is that many buyers aren't paying attention to the screen in front of them.
Yes, that's what I said the problem was. Buyers don't pay attention to it. That's why eBay needs to GET their attention and select an address.
02-26-2020 04:05 PM
That's a good point...I think that confirming that is the address they want the item shipped to would help.
I know that on a competing site I have to confirm that is the address that I want to use before I can continue with checkout.
02-26-2020 04:06 PM
So it isn't that Ebay doesn't enable a buyer to tell what address they are asking us to ship to prior to payment, it is that the buyer isn't paying attention to what is on their screen.
So your suggestion to MAKE them / require them to check a box verifying the ship to address is a EXCELLENT one IMHO.
02-26-2020 04:23 PM
However, I understand ebay will no longer protect me if I ship to a requested address, even if I can document the request from the buyer in ebay messages.
You would be correct. I think that this is due to the "scammer" messages that arrive in your eBay messages now for a request for address change.
For example, a friend of mine SOLD an item for about $200+. Within minutes, her ebay message inbox was inundated with THREE change of address requests. None of these were from the actual buyer of the item.
There was an additional ONE from the actual buyer that paid via PayPal. She figured that one was likely legit and did not know that ebay "changed the policy" and shipped to the alternate address from the real buyer ID. LOL...the 'buyer' subsequently filed INR with the Pal, and the seller lost. Presently, a seller would lose even if the INR claim came though eBay.
I am sure the policy changed with regards to "ebay message verification" due to the new trend in unsavory characters and it was costing ebay money.
02-26-2020 04:42 PM