can anyone explain me why USPS is looting people through shipping label page?

[uniwarehousewares]

package dimension : 12 x1 2 x 12     weight : 1 lb    NY TO CA     charge  8.59$

package dimension : 14 x1 2 x 12     weight : 1 lb    NY TO CA     charge  49.52$

ebay needs to fix this issue, before seller switch to other platform, USPS stealing from sellers!!!!!!

[uniwarehousewares]

USPS is stealing money from sellers this way !!!!! ebay needs to awake up !!! 

[alcoforever]

Your second package is over one cubic foot so it goes by dimensional weight, not actual weight.   So, yes, it makes sense.

[1tuna]

it doesnt make sense why you would ship a 16 ounce package by priority

I only ship by 1st class so I am always looking at other sellers tales of shipping woe

what you are describing is the regular rate and the cubic rate.

I am sure you know the balloon rate for priority mail is the over 1 cubic foot rate

shipping large items to California can really get you..................but you already knew that

keep on ebayin

[jack_bucks_ghost]

you might try FedEx for larger packages...USPS wanted $26 to ship one golf club--I shipped it through FedEx for half the price (and twice as fast as USPS shipping was going to be)

[luckythewinner]

The first package is exactly 1 cubic foot, so it ships by actualy weight:

1 pound. 

The second package is over 1 cubic foot, so it ships by dimensional weight:

14x12x12 = 2016 / 166 = 12.14 pounds

The USPS is not "looting people through the shipping page". They are using the same rates the USPS offes elsewhere. 

[no_zero369]

@uniwarehousewares 

Here is a bit of a plain English primer on Dimensional Weight I posted in another thread.  Shipping is your highest cost - so taking time to get a PhD in the subject is in your best interest, from an economic stand point

Dimensional Weight is a concept that shippers came up with to equalize the cost of shipping that doesn't solely rely on weight.  Here we go on the jargon and details, strap in! 😎

Say you wanted to ship a King Sized Pillow -  The weight of such might be a couple of pounds.  However the pillow takes up a LOT of space in the truck and as such it crowds out a whole bunch of smaller 1-lb packages.  So if that pillow wasn't taking up so much space, perhaps 4, 1-lb packages could fit in that space and thus the shipper is losing money by shipping a Large, light weight package. 

So to make up for this shippers came up with "dimensional weight" or a weight assigned to a package based on its size (dimensions).  So that pillow might ship at an assigned weight of say 5 pounds even though it weights only a couple of pounds.

 Dimensional Weight only kicks in on packages that are over 1-cubic foot in volume with the USPS.  UPS and FedEx use t he higher of DimWeight or actual weight when calculating shipping charges.

 Those calculation are done in the shipping calculator and one reason one needs to enter accurate dimensions and not approximate dimensions.  I also suspect that USPS's APV system makes those measurements as packages go through the sorting center.  Ship something based on weight that qualifies for Dim Weight and the APV system will charge you. 

 No doubt UPS and FedEx have the same kind of equipment in play and likely is one of the causes of "extra charges" some get when they ship on weight when in fact the dimensions kick the item into a higher weight class.

[fern*wood]

Your title and claim of "stealing" is over the top since what you describe is basic common knowledge one needs to know and understand to ship.

[fern*wood]

...plus you aren't new to this unless you drop ship and haven't handled labels yourself.  Since you sell all shapes and sizes of items, it is a must to understand the pricing.

[mobley120]

I don't think eBay has any control of USPS or anything else beyond themselves and their beloved Sellers.

But yeah, what you're noting therein your post, seems outlandish, by equating the rate differences by the packages' size, like in,  a square foot equals, 144 square inches, and at the rate you have stated for a square foot package, it'd equal, to about 6 cents per square inch. And the other package you have described, in your post, equals, 168 square inches, and that package equated by the rate you've noted, it'd equal, to about 30 cents per square inch.  So, increasing that square foot package by a mere 24 square inches caused "I guess" about a 400% increase in the shipping rate.  And with that said, yeah, it'd appear as if there surely is some type of theft going on, but it's not eBay, but they do reap rewards from such outlandish behavior by USPS, yep, for eBay's take is 10% of theft...

But hey, if one thinks the rates are ridiculously high now, here, on Earth, I can only imagine what the rates will be in the far, far future, when shipping an item to Moon, or better yet, Mars... 

Best regards to ya : )

[nobody*s_perfect]

This isn't about square inches, it's about volume.

A cubic foot has 12x12x12 = 1728 cubic inches.

The USPS formula for dimensional weight for packages over 1 cubic foot is volume (in cubic inches) divided by 166.  The other carriers might use a different value.

As@luckythewinner  mentioned above:

The second package is over 1 cubic foot, so it ships by dimensional weight:

14x12x12 = 2016 / 166 = 12.14 pounds

[mobley120]

"This isn't about square inches; etc.."

Yes, it's cubic in nature, I merely simplified the math of it. The rate increases, even equated by the cubic inches, it will still show about a 400% rate increase between the 2 packages; such is undeniable.

But it's obvious USPS simply applies the easiest methods to gain revenue, with little to no thought of the overall effect of their actions.

So, I'm giving the original poster a thumbs up, for the manner in how they choose to address the outlandishness of it. 

But if you like rolling with the flow, whether it be ridiculous or not, I have no probs with that, for that's your little red wagon, and your wagon might have plenty of extra seats that are very suitable for many others, but there isn't a seat in it that suits me.

Hi, to ya : )

[powell-memorabilia]

There is an extremely easy fix - just ship on your own, either using the USPS rates or Pirate Ship.  Or, ship through UPS or FedEx.  No one is stealing from you.

[mobley120]

Dear, Nobody's Perfect,

As I was sitting by the fire; warming my old tired bones, it came over me to explain my demeanor.

I hope you didn't take me in the wrong way, you know, with the wagon remarks, I meant no disrespect.

I've read many of your posts and I'm sure you are a big plus to the community and; my demeanor is just whom I am. But I stand firm in the light of aspects concerning the 400% increase, for there was/is but little differences in the packages and, to me the application doesn't justify the results. And, at times when I see that 400% figure, the word "predator" pops into my mind.

Anyway, If you can remember that little boy in grade school, the one who was always getting out of line. And the teacher, "bless her heart," she was constantly ushering him back in line. Well, that little boy was me ; )

The one who follows the crowd will usually get no further than the crowd. The one who walks alone, is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. ~ Albert Einstein.

[nobody*s_perfect]

It's all a fool's errand anyway. A 1-pound package can be shipped from coast to coast for $5.98 as a First Class package.