12-06-2023 06:03 AM
as it shows I set package weight at one pound. When I print out the label I notice now it’s 15.9 oz. Who do you think is going to have to pay the difference if the usps catches it? Surely not eBay it’ll be my fault that between their site and my printer the weight changes. It is insane the ways they come up with to save a penny and then blame the seller. How many times have I not noticed the difference and then later get hit with an underpayment that was entirely eBay trying to make more money. How many times has this happened to other unsuspecting sellers? eBay got caught red handed committing fraud the price difference of that one ounce $2. There is zero possible chance this isn’t done intentionally I have paid so much in underpayment claims yet when I purposely add weight I never see an overpayment credit like I’m supposed to. Sellers keep an eye out on your labels make sure the weight is was you stat. I’ll post the pic of the label in comments. This is getting pathetic
12-06-2023 06:05 AM
and yes same label everything else is correct must be some anomaly in the universe that changed that and nothing else conveniently saves eBay some money and if caught can blame the seller
12-06-2023 06:20 AM
I have been entering 1 pound for at least 5 years and it prints 15.9oz. on the label. I always paid the correct amount for that tier. Never any issues. Although, it's a little different now with Ground Advantage.
12-06-2023 06:38 AM
I made a mistake it’s not a difference of an ounce but eBay pruposly shaved 7ozs off what I put in and paid for.
12-06-2023 07:06 AM - edited 12-06-2023 07:07 AM
@diecastorbust wrote:I made a mistake it’s not a difference of an ounce but eBay pruposly shaved 7ozs off what I put in and paid for.
1 pound is 16 oz. You put in 1 pound and it printed as 15.9 oz, so that is a difference of 0.1 oz, not 7 oz.
That aside ...
The USPS retail counter rate limit is 13 oz, and the 16 oz limit only applies to online commercial rates.
I think the USPS requires eBay to use 15.9 oz instead of 16 oz because otherwise it would rejected as having insufficient postage. If I recall eBay originally did this because the USPS required them to to avoid it being confused for the old priority rate.
12-06-2023 07:26 AM
@luckythewinner wrote: ... The USPS retail counter rate limit is 13 oz, and the 16 oz limit only applies to online commercial rates.
I think the USPS requires eBay to use 15.9 oz instead of 16 oz because otherwise it would rejected as having insufficient postage.....
That was true for First Class packages, before the introduction of Ground Advantage. But now the weight brackets for Retail and Commercial for Ground Advantage are identical (see below).
However, the pricing is handled differently: For Retail, the prices for 15.999 ounces and for 1 pound are the same, but for Commercial, weirdly, the price for exactly 1 pound is higher than the price for 15.999 ounces: This is apparently the source of the OP's underpayment fees when eBay's label reports that the seller paid for 15.999 ounces (which eBay abbreviates as 15.9 ounces).
IMHO the most practical solution to this is rather than fight eBay's glitch, go along with it, pay for 15.9 ounces and then if USPS decides that the package is actually 1 full pound, they will collect the underpayment for it. AFAIK, there are no penalties incurred from either USPS nor from eBay (other than the payment itself) when a seller gets billed for label underpayment. And finally, I'm wondering how many packages actually fall into that tiny tiny weight difference between 15.999 ounces and 16 ounces?? Those are the only packages that should be affected by this situation.
I don't understand the OP's comment about 7 ounces, perhaps more detail is needed here or perhaps there is some fundamental confusion about measuring and reporting package weights.
12-06-2023 09:13 AM
You’re right I was looking at the .9 thinking 16 ounces. Even so losing the rate from 16oz to 15.9 is a difference of 2 dollars
12-06-2023 09:17 AM
No other comment or was right I was thinking 16 oz to a lb and say the .9 and just wasn’t thinking. But you are absolutely correct in the price difference. I paid for the pound I expect my label to reflect that also kinda weird I don’t have the way to say 15.9999 wheni put in the weight and yet eBay can do it to save a dollar but if the po catches that then eBay pushes the problem to me and I pay on something I already paid on so they can make a buck
12-06-2023 09:18 AM
USPS always seems to upgrade my packages in my favor.
12-06-2023 09:19 AM
Aren't you being charged the lower postage?
12-06-2023 09:20 AM
This is all an artifact of merging First Class Parcel with Parcel Select to form Ground Advantage/
If you want to pay for 1 lb not 15.9 oz, you have to select 1 lb 1 oz.
Perhaps when they have the next rate increase for GA, USPS will deal with the problem, perhaps not.
12-06-2023 09:36 AM
Update I have been hit for over $1700 in underpaid shipping by eBay since may of 2022. I have since only used eBay sparingly not putting in nearly as much effort here. Using a shipping method not provided by eBay I have never seen an underpaid which leaves me to believe eBay has done this all along.
12-06-2023 09:44 AM
@diecastorbust wrote:Update I have been hit for over $1700 in underpaid shipping by eBay since may of 2022.
I have shipped over ten thousand packages via USPS, and so far, I have not been charged any underpaid postage.
12-06-2023 09:46 AM - edited 12-06-2023 09:47 AM
over $1700 in underpaid shipping
WOW............I've been selling since 2004, probably 7000+ packages and only gotten a couple of small "underpayments" and a couple of small "overpayments" (credits back)......... only use Ebay/USPS shipping.
12-06-2023 09:48 AM
@diecastorbust wrote:Update I have been hit for over $1700 in underpaid shipping by eBay since may of 2022.
Seventeen hundred dollars in just 19 months??? How many separate underpaid charges is that?