SHIPPING FEES

[carsncards3031]

CAN YOU TELL ME WHY EBAY CAN TAKE 10 PERCENT OF THE SHIPPING COSTS AND CALL IT FINAL VALUE SHIPPING FEE WHEN IT DOES NOT OR NEVER DID REPRESENT ANY VALUE WHAT SO EVER TO ME?  AS A SELLER AM I SUPPOSED TO CHARGE 10 PERCENT MORE THAN WHAT THE ACTUAL SHIPPING COST IS?  WELL WHAT IS MOST LIKELY TO HAPPEN THEN IS BUYERS WILL GIVE BAD RATING FOR SHIPPING FEES THEN EBAY RESTRICTS MY SELLING ACTIVITY, THEN WHAT!!!

[the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth]

eBay hasn’t owned PayPal for 2-3 years now.

It’s not a monopoly because there are a ton of other places for you to sell. If you don’t like the way eBay does business then you’re free to sell somewhere else.

Oh and put the Fvf in your item price. That’s where they belong. They’re a cost of selling the item NOT a cost of shipping. Just like if shipping was included in the total (free shipping)

[penguins_dont_fly]

Just jumping in on the end here.

The FVF on shipping has been in place since July 2008 (11.5 Years)

eBay and PayPal split in July 2015 (4.5 Years)

[carsncards3031]

SO YOU ARE SAYING REASON EBAY WENT THIS ROUTE IS BECAUSE IT WAS THE EASIEST WAY TO END THE ABUSE BY SOME SELLERS AND THEIR REASONING WAS THAT IT'S JUST EASIER TO TAKE FROM ALL THE SELLERS RATHER THAN KICK THE ABUSERS OFF THE WEBSITE ?  AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EBAY FORESEEING WHAT KIND OF CASH COW THIS DECISION WAS GOING TO BRING THEM.       WOW

[bonjourami]

IM YELLING BACK, MAYBE BECAUSE EBAY KNOWS THOSE SELLERS THEY KICK OFF FOR THIS PRACTICE WILL JUST COME BACK WITH ANOTHER ID.

[lja440]

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@carsncards3031 wrote:

SO EBAYS FIX TO THIS PROBLEM IS TO TAKE 10 PERCENT OF EVERYBODY SHIPPING FUNDS WHICH IN TURN MAKES THE SELLER CHARGE WAY MORE FOR SHIPPING THAN WHAT THE ACTUAL COSTS ARE JUST TO BREAK EVEN, IN TURN, BUYER NOT HAPPY, LEAVES NOT SO GOOD SELLER RATING WHICH, LEADS TO RESTRICTION ON SELLER ACCOUNT FINALLY RESULTING IN FEWER SALES $  OOPS, THEY JUST SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT OR SOMEWHERE ELSE  GREAT FIX

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JEESH, I have been on eBay since 2004. Believe me IT IS BETTER THIS WAY!!!

Back before I was buried under a avalanche of penny items with outlandish s/h. No one saw my listings until the last few minutes when they finally made it to the front pages.

When eBay switched to this they also LOWERED other fees.

It is VERY SIMPLE to work your estimated FVF's both for the item and the s/h into your starting or BIN prices. Use the items trending price to find a estimated item FVF and use the postage to zone 8 to factor in the FVF on s/h. EASY PEASY. 

[the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth]

You got free pictures and free listings to compensate. We ran the numbers on the boards and most sellers came out about the same.

The fees are what the fees are. This is the most fair way to allocate them to sales.

youre dreaming if you think fees would be lower without the shipping portion of the Fvf. If enayweny back they would raise the percentage and you may end up paying more. 

[hannam_19]

eBay went to charging fvf on shipping because that's the industry standard

[penguins_dont_fly]

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

You got free pictures and free listings to compensate. We ran the numbers on the boards and most sellers came out about the same.

The fees are what the fees are. This is the most fair way to allocate them to sales.

youre dreaming if you think fees would be lower without the shipping portion of the Fvf. If enayweny back they would raise the percentage and you may end up paying more. 

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Have you looked at some of the items that the OP is selling? Furniture and other large, heavy items. Their shipping FVF is naturally larger than a seller who sells smaller, lighter items.

The solution for the OP is to stop selling big, bulky items with shipping. Voila, less shipping FVF.

[lja440]

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@penguins_dont_fly wrote:

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

You got free pictures and free listings to compensate. We ran the numbers on the boards and most sellers came out about the same.

The fees are what the fees are. This is the most fair way to allocate them to sales.

youre dreaming if you think fees would be lower without the shipping portion of the Fvf. If enayweny back they would raise the percentage and you may end up paying more. 

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Have you looked at some of the items that the OP is selling? Furniture and other large, heavy items. Their shipping FVF is naturally larger than a seller who sells smaller, lighter items.

The solution for the OP is to stop selling big, bulky items with shipping. Voila, less shipping FVF.

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I do furniture BUT I don't list them here. They go at the B&M and I advertise them on Facebook Marketplace, items can be picked up 7 days a week during store hours. I pay 10% of the sale to the shop owner to handle the sale and collect the money. Ironically the same as I pay eBay in FVF's and no packing it up. For eBay I stick to items that can be readily shipped.

[fuzzface50]

I was all for it when they were discussing adding this fee back many years ago  because it leveled the playing field for the honest sellers.

My fees actually went down when they added the 10% shipping fee because they got rid of the picture fee, listing fees that were increments based on your starting price.  you always had these if the item sold or not, money out of your pocket. But with the new 10% shipping fee you only got charged this after it sold so it wasn't no extra money out of my pocket. 

If they took it away they would raise a fee someplace else to make up for it.   I see people complain here all the time and when ebay steps in and fixes it, they tend to make the problem worse someplace else and the complaints don't stop but seem to increase.

So be careful for trying to get ebay to change this, their fix might be worse on your pocketbook. at least now it comes in after a sale where you can have it figured in your starting price already and doesn't affect you until after a sale when you should have money to cover it. 

Don't like it you can sell someplace else but many places charge it even though they hide it better and have been doing it longer than ebay has.

How do you feel about  taxes being charged?  Usually those are the complaints lately.

[vaccin]

The result in final of these fee on shipping is the ebay user have to double shipping price to be sure the shipping cost will be cover. I notice that on ebay shipping cost is more expansive than any other auction service on web and now i know why. I learn it by my self and now i will consider that in my listing.

We have now 2 option selling item somewere else and close ebay account or doubling the shipping cost like every one do.

Wonderful solution Ebay owner CLAP CLAP CLAP

[carsncards3031]

YOUR YELLING A PRETTY WEAK REPLY, YOU MEAN TO TELL ME WITH TODAY'S IDENTITY TECHNOLOGY EBAY COULD'NT KEEP THEM BANNED I SURE THERE'S AWAY THEY COULD TELL SUCH AS ADDRESS , SHIPPING LOCATION, NAME, BANK ACCOUNTS AND THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES ON THE ACCOUNTS I'M SURE THEY COULD FIND OUT THE LAST TIME A PERSON WENT TO THE BATHROOM IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO SO, COME ON, CERTAINLY YOU CAN REPLY SOME THING BETTER THAN THAT AND ALSO NO NEED TO YELL, THE REASON I TYPE IN CAPPS IS CAUSE BLIND IN RIGHT EYE AND CAN SEE MY TYPING BETTER

[corvettestainless]

The 'Value' is not the 'Value' they give YOU, it's the Shipping "Final Value", meaning the amount (value) that they use to then charge THIER percentage. 

After the original reason of the circumventing 'buy for $1, ship for $99' sellers and this 'fix' (too many were doing it to 'catch' doing it and it was shooting them in their own foot to remove those sellers).. 

it was then decided that 'free shipping' was important, it was required for TRS discounts and would get 'better' view on 'best match'. This is because most other internet sites give 'free shipping'. So, they were trying to tell you.."you will pay for the total sale whether you do Free Shipping or not'. 

Also it makes sense, as the 'sale' is not complete without a 'shipped' price, so that is the price that is used for your Final Value Fee. 

[itz_stacey]

@carsncards3031 

You aren't understanding this - 

ebay's fees are based on the TOTAL AMOUNT of the sale, period. 

Example:

You sell an item for $150 + $10 shipping - ebays fees are based off of $160 TOTAL 

* in this scenario you see a "fvf on shipping" because until the buyer checks out and pays ebay has no way of determining what shipping method/cost the buyer chose to use. 

                                                         OR

You sell an item for $160 + free shipping - ebays fees are STILL calculated using the $160 TOTAL

* In this scenario you will NOT see the separate "fvf on shipping" because you rolled the shipping cost in to the item price and the buyer does not have a choice to upgrade the shipping method. The fee is still there though, it's just being calculated in the items regular FVF/listing fees.

Again, the super simple way to think of this is - ebays fees are based on the TOTAL AMOUNT of the SALE.

[bonjourami]

Sorry about your bad eye, why not mention that earlier so responders dont think you are yelling at them about a nine year old policy change? Yes, Ebay can identify a new account by their isp address. But when a different pc is used to register, along with different personal information its easy to slip under Ebays bot radar.