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Why everyone I know is no longer using ebay...

Ebay, like all other large corporations are in business to make money. It no longer matters how. They know that if you stop using their platform 10 others will start. It is a perpetual revolving door of "who cares - 10 others will join today".

 

I am a long time client of ebay and used their site regularly.

The first thing that bothered me was when people started to offer a $100 item for $1 and shipping for $99.

They did this to circumvent the fees from the selling price. It was deceptive and ebay should have terminated their accounts. Instead ebay put fees on shipping costs to insure the scammers wouldn't be able to scam. But that punished the decent honest people. I once purchased a large, heavy item for $1200. Shipping was $600. I could not buy that item today because the selling fees and shipping fees would be exorbitant.

That ended listing and buying large items on ebay.

 

The next problem I have is when I look for some antique and a billion new items appear as "antique". I have to spend hours searching for what I want. It isn't worth my time.

 

Then there is the "numbers" game. I searched for a 5" hole saw from lowest to highest price. An infinite amount of offers popped up with prices quoted in a "range". ( ie $2.75 - 57.23) In these posts you select the size you want to buy but now I have to look through each one just to see what the 5" saw costs. More time wasted.

 

Next there is the "algorithms" game. This is when ebay steers you to a particular item. I looked for a computer module for my car and ebay presented one that was inoperative. Friends told me there about a dozen of them listed that didn't appear for me. Here's how that works: Someone has an item that has been listed for a very long time and is not selling. ebay will present only that item to a buyer who is not a regular buyer hoping that he buys it and the seller is happy finally selling it. Ebay is trying to keep the seller happy at the expense of the buyer. When my friends told me the item numbers of the items that did not appear on my screen I was finally able to see them. Deceptive.

 

With refunds, I and several friends have fought many times with ebay to get a refund from items that were not as described. Sometimes the seller never even answered ebay! Ebay would rather keep sellers with higher volume sales happy than you. You represent a small profit and the seller represents big money to ebay.

 

The worst thing for a seller is that someone sees your product and is ready to purchase it. They scroll down and see ebay lists ads of the same product for other sellers. Ebay makes a profit for listing these ads and doesnt care that they are directing your customer away from you. Why sell anything if ebay is going to steer your customers away to others?

 

These are things that I and others have tested and found to be true. I could go on with more.

Ebay used to be fun but now it has become so complicated that it isn't worth the time.

Every time they say they are improving or making it easier is a farce.

 

I don't know why no one has developed a rival auction platform that only charges a flat fee of $5 for selling and buying. If a million people list items and they sell that would generate $10,000,000 dollars.

Doesn't that motivate any or those computer wizards out there?

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Why would you fight with eBay over an item that's not as described? 

Surely you are aware of the Money Back Guarantee?

Have been here quite awhile, only as a buyer now.  Have to say, I have had maybe 2-3 purchases that were NAD.  NAD claims were opened shortly after receipt.  I waited 3 days for a reply from each seller.  No communication.  On Day #4,  returned to case and asked eBay to step in.  Was refunded almost immediately. eBay also told me to keep items.  Don't recall what FB, if any, I left.  One seller later messaged me and apologized.  So how did YOU handle YOUR NAD situation(s)? 

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"With refunds, I and several friends have fought many times with ebay to get a refund from items that were not as described."

 

Did you and your friends open not as described cases to utilize Ebays thirty day MBG? Ebay has one of the most stringent buyer protections on the net, they are buyer centric.



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With refunds, I and several friends have fought many times with ebay to get a refund from items that were not as described. Sometimes the seller never even answered ebay! Ebay would rather keep sellers with higher volume sales happy than you. You represent a small profit and the seller represents big money to ebay.

 

I have a friend that absolutely hates ebay, because of a transaction she had years ago, and will bash them ever time she has the chance. Unfortunately she doesn't seem to understand the fact that it is up to sellers to resolve issues first and then ebay steps in. She sees my store associated with ebay and will not, nor will she ever, shop with me because of her history with them. It's sad that good sellers are basically punished for poor selling vendors, but in the grand scheme of things, there isn't much we can do but be the very best to those that do shop with us.

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And I have just the opposite, friends and family shop Ebay..most of them dont like Amazons yearly Prime fee.



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You lost me at, "Ebay, like all other large corporations are in business to make money."

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"Why everyone I know is no longer using ebay..."

 

The simple answer to that is often when I mention ebay now the answer I get is ebay who? Unless I'm talking to older friends.

 

All I occasional catch a glimpse of on the telly over here is "sponsored by ebay" popping up after a motoring show repeat. Not many will bother watching that as though the show was popular in it's day, that was over a decade ago.

 

Talking to young nephews and nieces, when they have something to get rid of it goes up on Facebook or is given away to a charity shop or Freecyled.

 

Perhaps that goes someway in explaining .uk making it free for private sellers

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Since we all know us small businesses aren't here to make money, right? I had the same reaction as you.

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@octarr 
  My issue is with pretty much all aspects of the search function and all of manipulation it allows.
That's killing the site.
The adds all over our listings of others items?  Don't much like that either.

But to start a new platform?  You would need 10,000 employees just to take care of all the people that got a negative that day.  Another 10,000 to get in the middle of all the "he said/she said" stuff.
Not to mention "real" issues.

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@octarr wrote:

 

I don't know why no one has developed a rival auction platform that only charges a flat fee of $5 for selling and buying. If a million people list items and they sell that would generate $10,000,000 dollars.

Doesn't that motivate any or those computer wizards out there?


how much do you think marketing and advertising would cost to get people to agree to pay 5 dollars. 

 

How much do you think labor cost in the US will get you at 10mil a month? Some engineers i used to pay up to 300k a year plus benefits, 

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I am one of those that refuse to shop Amazon unless i have too.

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@octarr wrote:

 

 

I don't know why no one has developed a rival auction platform that only charges a flat fee of $5 for selling and buying. If a million people list items and they sell that would generate $10,000,000 dollars.

Doesn't that motivate any or those computer wizards out there?


They don't because there is little interest in such an auction site.

 

Sites like liveauctioneers and invaluable are surviving because they are adjuncts to real auctions, and are supported by a hefty buyer's premium. And many items do not sell on those sites, no matter how many times they are listed.

 

IMO you are out of step with the state of the market. No one would fund a site whose sole goal was to compete with Ebay. The focus is on competing with e-commerce leaders.

 

Many of your objections are relevant to a small percentage of Ebay's users.

 

Ebay suffers from its past mistakes which made a fortune for Pierre. The lasting damage and buyer alienation is going to last as long as early Ebayers are alive and have their memories.

 

 

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I can't find a connection between the habits of who you know and my selling on ebay.

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$10 million would not cover the SGA costs of a rival site.

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Uh... but don't you know us?

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