06-03-2019 04:09 AM - edited 06-03-2019 04:11 AM
In last 3 months I noticed huge decline in traffic over the night. It dropped down from 250.000 monthly impressions to 30.000 and sales dropped down from 50 to 5. I do follow all eBay rules, called eBay 3 times and every time i get different answer with no solution. One of them even act like she is doing something but no success.
I sell same products on other places and have no problems there - sells and traffic are steady.
After almost 5 years here on eBay I don't know what is going on but it looks like eBay puts me on standby without any reason.
It looks like eBay Help Center and eBay itself doesn't care about sellers as it did before.
Does anyone had the same problem and what are possible solutions?
Maybe it's time to close the store here since it is waist of time and money at the moment.
06-03-2019 07:33 AM
I'm seeing 160:
06-03-2019 07:42 AM
06-03-2019 07:49 AM
OP - Your sold listings are telling a vastly different story from what you are posting.
06-03-2019 08:15 AM
eBay is not a one size fits all operation. You are a niche seller - what you may consider "sound advice" might not work for the vast majority of sellers who are not niche sellers. I am 20 year eBay seller who sells a wide variety of items over four accounts - many of which take many months to find a new home.
Each account has been behaving erratically for the past three months. Three acoounts have had no sales since May 15 including this one which still is a TRS account - never have I gone more than a week without a sale before on any of them. My fourth account had twice as many sales in May as March and April combined, and is the only account to have any sales so far in June.
Strange that my newly listed items aren't selling, but items that have been relisted many times (no GTCs) are what is selling. Because sports stuff tends to be somewhat seasonal - I also sell military, political, and barware on this account to balance out sales throughout the year. It is highly unusual that none of them are selling especially with Fathers Day on the horizon. Since I have not changed what I have been doing that has worked reasonably well for 20 years - I can only conclude that ebay is the one making changes resulting in a declining marketplace.
And yes I do sell elsewhere - mostly higher priced items than I sell on eBay.
06-03-2019 08:15 AM - edited 06-03-2019 08:16 AM
@tunicaslot wrote:
@urosh69 wrote:
Hi,
I'm aware of up and down periods but what makes me wonder is that happened over the night.
Since you all noticed that my sales increased, except me, I have a question.
Is it possible that someone "kidnapped" my account and make a sales without me knowing it?No one has kidnapped your acct. There have been many other sellers here within the past few months - some big time that have seen their numbers, sales and impressions decrease substantially. I use to be one of the Ebay cheerleaders - citing what others are citing - and they aren't wrong about there being ebbs and flows and the need for all sellers to cross post to other platforms. But many are in a niche and haven't experienced what many other sellers have been having happening to them.
There is something going on - whether it be the glitches, algorithms, the fact many sellers pulled their listings after GTC was announced and went elsewhere - and those sellers were also buyers - multiple problems with the site and search - you name it - but no one seems to know exactly what the problems is. I do know that using promoted listings weighs heavily into the algorithms as odes your sell through rate - but its hard to keep a sell through rate up with all the problems that might affect buyers seeing your items to buy.
Ebay CS are low paid employees who have no clue what's going on. Your best bet is to read the boards - contact other sellers that post here and see what they've tried. zamo-zuan seems to have the best insight on the problems here. Look for his posts.
Thank you for the kind words, I was actually going to reply in agreement with what you said before I even got to the mention of me lol.
Honestly, as mentioned in the quote above, this doesn't seem to be a typical ebb & flow and has hit non-niche categories. Something has happened within the last 25 days to bring us (and the market we sell in) to the lowest point in 3+ years.
You see the light gray background towards the top? That we reached the first week? That was our daily average for sales! Basically, weekday typically were slightly below that point, but nearly every weekday was above that point. It was basically our "par". Most weeks we had at least 4-5 days above that point, and certainly at least 3, even on Holiday weeks.
We haven't hit that point at all, for weeks now.
Furthermore, you can notice that as each week passes, it "normalizes" more and more in to a pattern. This is not natural flow of traffic. It's the sign of an algorithm at work.
Oh, and it's not just CS that doesn't know what's going on. I spoke to one of the Motors category managers who visited us in person. Even he doesn't know what's going on. Basically, this means we're (once again ) in a situation where nobody at eBay knows what's going on, and there's no department that could assist.
06-03-2019 09:08 AM
@zamo-zuan wrote:
@tunicaslot wrote:
@urosh69 wrote:
Hi,
I'm aware of up and down periods but what makes me wonder is that happened over the night.
Since you all noticed that my sales increased, except me, I have a question.
Is it possible that someone "kidnapped" my account and make a sales without me knowing it?No one has kidnapped your acct. There have been many other sellers here within the past few months - some big time that have seen their numbers, sales and impressions decrease substantially. I use to be one of the Ebay cheerleaders - citing what others are citing - and they aren't wrong about there being ebbs and flows and the need for all sellers to cross post to other platforms. But many are in a niche and haven't experienced what many other sellers have been having happening to them.
There is something going on - whether it be the glitches, algorithms, the fact many sellers pulled their listings after GTC was announced and went elsewhere - and those sellers were also buyers - multiple problems with the site and search - you name it - but no one seems to know exactly what the problems is. I do know that using promoted listings weighs heavily into the algorithms as odes your sell through rate - but its hard to keep a sell through rate up with all the problems that might affect buyers seeing your items to buy.
Ebay CS are low paid employees who have no clue what's going on. Your best bet is to read the boards - contact other sellers that post here and see what they've tried. zamo-zuan seems to have the best insight on the problems here. Look for his posts.
Thank you for the kind words, I was actually going to reply in agreement with what you said before I even got to the mention of me lol.
Honestly, as mentioned in the quote above, this doesn't seem to be a typical ebb & flow and has hit non-niche categories. Something has happened within the last 25 days to bring us (and the market we sell in) to the lowest point in 3+ years.
You see the light gray background towards the top? That we reached the first week? That was our daily average for sales! Basically, weekday typically were slightly below that point, but nearly every weekday was above that point. It was basically our "par". Most weeks we had at least 4-5 days above that point, and certainly at least 3, even on Holiday weeks.
We haven't hit that point at all, for weeks now.
Furthermore, you can notice that as each week passes, it "normalizes" more and more in to a pattern. This is not natural flow of traffic. It's the sign of an algorithm at work.
Oh, and it's not just CS that doesn't know what's going on. I spoke to one of the Motors category managers who visited us in person. Even he doesn't know what's going on. Basically, this means we're (once again ) in a situation where nobody at eBay knows what's going on, and there's no department that could assist.
I actually think they know what's going on but there would be a mass exodus of sellers if it leaked out - like the GTC. The littlest thing, like the Bar created on Ebay Campus, is setting people off and running because they've been jumping thru the hoops and playing these games for years. We never get answers and what answers we do get are double talk. Of all the sites on the internet - this site has more glitches, down time and problems of any other I know. Antiquated equipment, poorly trained employees, or maybe IT too new and inexperienced to deal with the problems - or well designed plans that will lead exactly where management wants - I'm not sure what the answer is.
I read the forums elsewhere and there are problems everywhere - there are glitches, sellers have problems with management - but no where are they to the extent that Ebay has and the glitches are actually fixed so both sellers and buyers can go on about their business. They are minor inconveniences - not long term problems.
06-03-2019 09:28 AM - edited 06-03-2019 09:28 AM
@tunicaslot wrote:
@zamo-zuan wrote:
@tunicaslot wrote:
@urosh69 wrote:
Hi,
I'm aware of up and down periods but what makes me wonder is that happened over the night.
Since you all noticed that my sales increased, except me, I have a question.
Is it possible that someone "kidnapped" my account and make a sales without me knowing it?No one has kidnapped your acct. There have been many other sellers here within the past few months - some big time that have seen their numbers, sales and impressions decrease substantially. I use to be one of the Ebay cheerleaders - citing what others are citing - and they aren't wrong about there being ebbs and flows and the need for all sellers to cross post to other platforms. But many are in a niche and haven't experienced what many other sellers have been having happening to them.
There is something going on - whether it be the glitches, algorithms, the fact many sellers pulled their listings after GTC was announced and went elsewhere - and those sellers were also buyers - multiple problems with the site and search - you name it - but no one seems to know exactly what the problems is. I do know that using promoted listings weighs heavily into the algorithms as odes your sell through rate - but its hard to keep a sell through rate up with all the problems that might affect buyers seeing your items to buy.
Ebay CS are low paid employees who have no clue what's going on. Your best bet is to read the boards - contact other sellers that post here and see what they've tried. zamo-zuan seems to have the best insight on the problems here. Look for his posts.
Thank you for the kind words, I was actually going to reply in agreement with what you said before I even got to the mention of me lol.
Honestly, as mentioned in the quote above, this doesn't seem to be a typical ebb & flow and has hit non-niche categories. Something has happened within the last 25 days to bring us (and the market we sell in) to the lowest point in 3+ years.
You see the light gray background towards the top? That we reached the first week? That was our daily average for sales! Basically, weekday typically were slightly below that point, but nearly every weekday was above that point. It was basically our "par". Most weeks we had at least 4-5 days above that point, and certainly at least 3, even on Holiday weeks.
We haven't hit that point at all, for weeks now.
Furthermore, you can notice that as each week passes, it "normalizes" more and more in to a pattern. This is not natural flow of traffic. It's the sign of an algorithm at work.
Oh, and it's not just CS that doesn't know what's going on. I spoke to one of the Motors category managers who visited us in person. Even he doesn't know what's going on. Basically, this means we're (once again ) in a situation where nobody at eBay knows what's going on, and there's no department that could assist.
I actually think they know what's going on but there would be a mass exodus of sellers if it leaked out - like the GTC. The littlest thing, like the Bar created on Ebay Campus, is setting people off and running because they've been jumping thru the hoops and playing these games for years. We never get answers and what answers we do get are double talk. Of all the sites on the internet - this site has more glitches, down time and problems of any other I know. Antiquated equipment, poorly trained employees, or maybe IT too new and inexperienced to deal with the problems - or well designed plans that will lead exactly where management wants - I'm not sure what the answer is.
I read the forums elsewhere and there are problems everywhere - there are glitches, sellers have problems with management - but no where are they to the extent that Ebay has and the glitches are actually fixed so both sellers and buyers can go on about their business. They are minor inconveniences - not long term problems.
It's honestly probably a mix of all the things mentioned.
In regards to them knowing the issue, I tend to doubt that part because the manager I spoke to thought it would be VeRO. But according to the VeRO team we have no penalties as no take-downs occured. So the only reason VeRO would be causing us to lose visibility would be is if it is incorrectly punishing us... Considering eBay's tech issues I would not put this past them...
But based on all the other issues that I've seen sellers with that started within 1-2 days of our issues, I've become more and more in doubt it was this.
Oh, and there's this other lil thing we noticed on the MSO Sellers Health Business Readout...
GMV for the entire Parts & Accessories category down 27% in 1 month?
GMV for the entire Radio Control & Control Line category down 36% in a month?
Likely much bigger issues at hand here...
06-03-2019 10:13 AM
@sweetpieces4you wrote:And my number of listings has Nothing to do With Sound Advice !!
It certainly does. Even if you do not recognize it. Until you have listed in several categories with multi listings their is no way you can know. Your advice is not sound.
I also Have a 100% List to Sell Ratio !! Do you Understand That ??
Sure. If I only had 1 to 13 listings like you. I could brag that as well.
That means Everything I List Sells 😎 You
06-03-2019 12:27 PM
My good friend Z who's no longer with us on these boards would drive me nuts always praising Ebay and the sales he received … but he was in a niche category - so didn't suffer problems that many of us did. All of a sudden - all the complaints we had started happening to him ( and no it wasn't the rest of us! ) - but then he understood.
I still talk to him on other forums and while he's still selling here - and is grateful for what sales he makes - he now sees - the bad and the good. You can love a platform and hate it at the same time. It's called being realistic - just because you aren't experiencing the problems others are doesn't mean it isn't happening or it won't happen to you.
I'll be the first to say when a poster is blaming Ebay and I know for a fact that the person's anger is directed at the wrong person.
06-03-2019 12:54 PM - edited 06-03-2019 12:55 PM
Something is certainly going on here since the beginning of May. We were absolutely rocking it over the past year, and then the first week of May hit, that is when everything has started to go down hill from there. We continue to list daily as we are getting auto parts in several times a week. We've refreshed some of our listings, trying to make sure we use item specifics where we can. I've tried working with eBay support, my contacts at Hollander, etc. you name it, it's not doing anything. Our inventory is at about 4,800 parts give or take a few.
This is my chart and take a look at how all over the place it is, it's like a roller coaster ride. We hadn't hit our highest day in sales in a good month, then last week after I complained almost everyday to support its like the faucet opened up for 3 days as you guys can see in the charts. I wish that there was some normalcy to all of this chart.
I've noticed my seller hub has had a ton of bugs to the point where I can't even search in my own categories. Last week some of my items weren't properly appearing in search either.
06-03-2019 01:16 PM - edited 06-03-2019 01:16 PM
@tunicaslot wrote:My good friend Z who's no longer with us on these boards would drive me nuts always praising Ebay and the sales he received … but he was in a niche category - so didn't suffer problems that many of us did. All of a sudden - all the complaints we had started happening to him ( and no it wasn't the rest of us! ) - but then he understood.
I still talk to him on other forums and while he's still selling here - and is grateful for what sales he makes - he now sees - the bad and the good. You can love a platform and hate it at the same time. It's called being realistic - just because you aren't experiencing the problems others are doesn't mean it isn't happening or it won't happen to you.
I'll be the first to say when a poster is blaming Ebay and I know for a fact that the person's anger is directed at the wrong person.
Completely agree, especially with the highlighted part.
After the last year I've seen all types of sellers face these issues. It's at the point where nobody is safe. Not even in sustainable categories that are not oversaturated or niche.
Reality is that top sellers are dropping (even in markets that are up). Niche sellers are dropping. GMV is dropping. Overall sales are dropping.
I just wonder when the point comes where eBay will begin to take drastic measures on marketplace health. It seems for the moment they're content with their company health being sustainable as they profit off of sellers demise. But eBay is a marketplace, and having their marketplace healthy again is the only way they will truly be sustainable long-term.
The question shouldn't even be if anyone here is for or against eBay. All of us sellers must be "for eBay" because our success depends on it. That's the reason we must have our voices be heard, as eBay's failure is inadvertently affecting all of us facing these issues.
06-03-2019 03:11 PM
@zamo-zuan wrote:
@tunicaslot wrote:My good friend Z who's no longer with us on these boards would drive me nuts always praising Ebay and the sales he received … but he was in a niche category - so didn't suffer problems that many of us did. All of a sudden - all the complaints we had started happening to him ( and no it wasn't the rest of us! ) - but then he understood.
I still talk to him on other forums and while he's still selling here - and is grateful for what sales he makes - he now sees - the bad and the good. You can love a platform and hate it at the same time. It's called being realistic - just because you aren't experiencing the problems others are doesn't mean it isn't happening or it won't happen to you.
I'll be the first to say when a poster is blaming Ebay and I know for a fact that the person's anger is directed at the wrong person.
Completely agree, especially with the highlighted part.
After the last year I've seen all types of sellers face these issues. It's at the point where nobody is safe. Not even in sustainable categories that are not oversaturated or niche.
Reality is that top sellers are dropping (even in markets that are up). Niche sellers are dropping. GMV is dropping. Overall sales are dropping.
I just wonder when the point comes where eBay will begin to take drastic measures on marketplace health. It seems for the moment they're content with their company health being sustainable as they profit off of sellers demise. But eBay is a marketplace, and having their marketplace healthy again is the only way they will truly be sustainable long-term.
The question shouldn't even be if anyone here is for or against eBay. All of us sellers must be "for eBay" because our success depends on it. That's the reason we must have our voices be heard, as eBay's failure is inadvertently affecting all of us facing these issues.
And I was one of the ones for the longest time that made excuses for Ebay as I didn't have the problems others did - so I apologize. Jason did the same a month or two ago. Regardless if they are not experiencing problems now themselves - sellers have to keep an open mind that not all sellers are whiners and the lack of sales is their fault. Everyone can make improvements - but there is no fixing Ebay until the powers that be decide to fix it.
My seller hub is goofy too. I posted about the drop in sales for my 90 day lookback the other day - and after posting the number shown to me in seller hub started to think that I must have sold a bunch of high value items I forgot about as so few sales a month wouldn't generate the money I did make. When I actually look at my items and filter to sold - it shows twice the amt of sold items for a 90 day period than is shown to me in Seller's Hub
06-03-2019 04:44 PM
I have the same problem too. for 6 years I have had consistent monthly sales with some very minor ups and downs but these last 2 to 3 months have been a disaster.
my inventory has not changed, I sell the same items as I did when I started.
sales down 60% from previous month which was down around the same from the month before that. average from 400 to 600 a week in sales for 6 years, under 100 for 2 months straight. off average yearly sales by -2500+.
06-03-2019 05:04 PM
06-03-2019 06:12 PM
Since Zamo started the posting charts trend, here we go. I can count on one hand the number of days in 2019 we had zero sales before mid May. Usually we'd approach or hit that second grey bar Zamo was talking about. Things slowed down dramatically on May 1st- as if a switch had been flipped. Things coasted a bit until the last week of May, and now we're lucky to break $100 in sales a day - and let me tell you, $100 a day gross isn't gonna pay the bills.
It's become my mantra at this point- eBay is the best option I have on the table, and the second something (anything) else comes along I'll be all over it. This isn't sustainable.