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Total loss of all sales since 5-17-2022

I wish someone from Ebay could answer me oneglassman  for the Total system crash of views, & sales, I have always maintained a TRS and a store for 7 years. My sales were GREAT until Ebay started with this new updated system. I had some 25 to 30 High-end Fenton Art Glass sales until 5-17-2022, I was having great sales just about every day prior to 5-17-2022 now this mess has happened. NO SALES from 5-17-2022 to 5-22-2022. Now I can't send buyers an offer, I normally send 25 to 30 per day, I have sent 7 in the last 6 days.

What is going on with the Ebay I have known for many years? It's not the economy, inflation and gas prices, it is inside the Ebay system. My listings are up to date with Item speciation, great photos and Beautiful Fenton Art Glass.  Something has got to give.  Thanks Roger-oneglassman

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Every bit of this site from corner to corner is manipulated......

I'm starting to think that some of our most popular posters and eBay cheerleaders in this forum have been hoodwinking us for years here. Sure, they may be sellers on the site, but I don't think that is their main job at eBay.

When they get on here and try to tell some of us that have been selling here for years that we have forgotten how to sell or we aren't going about it properly is the reason sales are down.......Really ? Horse Pickles.

I think it would shock the rest of us how many of them aren't who we think they are. 

For some time now, they have been running a diversion to promotions......we are supposed to mindlessly promote our listings and pay eBay for views which should be free and just how the system works.

They want us to believe that we aren't using proper SEO and not listing enough to get sales.

The truth is, they have gummed up the regular search of non-promoted listings. Intentionally.

Anyone saying that they have had terrific sales all along without promoting anything is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

This site has self-imploded with greed over the last year to the point that it is an entirely different place and atmosphere. It's pretty much a house of smoke and mirrors for the foolish.

You know what they say about a fool and his money, right ?

 

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WRONG 

For everything that happens conditions exist such that nothing else could have happened.
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Might be counting VPN people as bots.

For everything that happens conditions exist such that nothing else could have happened.
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Its their party and they can F it up if they want to.

I would say they sold me something and then didnt provide it. A lawyer would tell me its all part of the user agreement I agreed to.

For everything that happens conditions exist such that nothing else could have happened.
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My solution is always to list more.

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I think you might have nailed it there on the end. GOOGLE. I sell a lot of parts to things. People find those parts with google more often than ebay I believe. I think maybe whatever ebay did to my listings disconnected them from showing on Google while ebay search died a long time ago.

I have read A LOT of these replies. People complaining they got turned off May-June. I to was turned off May/Juneish but it turned me back on the end of July. Aug and Sept were great! Since Oct 13th I have been off.  To be honest all of October hasn’t been good but my graph shows the 13th as the last day I sold over $200.

I don’t maintain a “death pile,” I list everything I buy and if its up to long I cull it. I am going to start a pile. I am not listing any more items until I am back on. I don’t work for free. Ill work on Shopify while I wait.

Notice no mention of problems from YouTubers. At least the big ones. They say they sell 50% to viewers. Its more like 80%. They sold everything from a video link and nothing from an organic search or google shopping link. They are nowhere close to an actual gauge of reality but they will sure tell you they are.

Every single thing I have sold for the past week were items people we’re watching. I am getting sales from people that viewed the item weeks or months ago and knew where it was. 

My offers to watchers page is picking up none of the lots of new inventory I just put up. If I don’t send any offers over a weekend watchers will pile up and Ill have 60 offers to send. Not anymore. My offers to watchers page hasn’t picked up anything. The only thing it’s doing is putting items back on the list when the previous offer sent for the same item expired. No new watchers, only recycling old ones.

My account is pushing 20 years old. Are the older accounts waiting for newer accounts with 40,000 listings of garbage to reindex? Are we waiting on China to reindex? Are we waiting on people with 10+% promoted to reindex? I don’t know what the problem is but I am wondering if this is the new normal and its dead forever.

Amazon want you to be a slave stocking their store for them. They want to do all the work and just have you find and send the items in while you get nearly nothing for it. Then they want to put the fraud, theft, and abuse on your bill after that didn’t pay you dk. Maybe ebay is going down that same road. You can work, but the only way you will sell anything is if you give us the lions share of the money.

For everything that happens conditions exist such that nothing else could have happened.
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They are going to become like Webstore; a good site to sell on, then the operators got greedy and couldn't help but find ways to screw thing up. They wanted money but didn't want to promote the site. They are so pathetic now, they beg for "donations". The pay-to-play strategy failed miserably. 

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@carniland_market wrote:

My solution is always to list more.


Have your sales really taken off since you used that solution?

What trend have you noticed?

Any other insights?

Lift your left leg at midnight to start off on the right foot. Happy new Year!
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@usfl2010 wrote:

LOL?

Is that your answer to all these sellers loss of revenue? How horribly COLD and HEARTLESS.

Some sellers feed their families with that revenue.


What is better - to coddle sellers that depend on eBay or to give them the straight dope?  Zero wrong with his response.

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I see the things you sell in our thrift shops price well below what you want. We here feel we dont want to invest in any glass at any price. We want food and gas, not glass. Have you ever considered no one wants your items at any price, for yes, months? It must be true because we can clearly seee your listings on your page! So can every one else. Bad time to sell glass. Try raising the price and promote your listings at 15% and see what happens?

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Sales are in the toilet because fleaBay is in the toilet. Have you looked at their P&L statements for Q1 & Q2 2022? Big loses!  Almost $2 Billion, total. The flea lost 10 million Buyers during the second quarter.  Buyers are also Sellers.  Tons of Sellers have left the flea. The stock is way down. Even investors aren't buying into the flea. I can't wait to see the profit/loss numbers for the third Quarter.

I don't rely on sales from the flea. It was once a fun place to sell stuff but now it is just a platform to use. 

I've been selling on the flea since 1998 so don't tell me views and sales are just as good as they've always been. You are full of it if you think things haven't changed. The flea is squeaking Sellers for every penny they can. You don't get views unless you promote. If you don't get views you don't sell. If you promote and sell you pay more in fees. You can't raise your prices to cover the higher fees so you make less and less and less.

I set up my own website and sell more from that site than I do from the flea.

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What's occuring is a perfect storm and not to be negative, but it's going to get much worse. 

The entire bot view situation occured at the beginning of the summer slow down, coupled with a dwindling economy.  

Now, as the economy worsens, those sellers that don't have a strong repeat custom base are going to get hit the worst. 

We're (Ebay sellers) facing a slew of problems.  There is an excess of product (too many sellers) and a not enough buyers, increasing inflation, an all time high credit card debt; and a tidal wave of sellers dropping product at rock bottom prices just to pay business expenses and costs of living.

There is no way your average seller can compete with this while trying to make a profit.  Sure, there are ebbs and flows where you can make a buck.

But, unless you're willing to drop prices, cut shipping costs, and promote at astronomical rates its going to be a tough sale.   I don't believe the holidays are going to be much better either.  

Look at the screenshot below of what a suggested promotion rate for an item I was listing in World Postal History, Stamps>Postal History> World

Now, whether the promotional ad rates are "made up" or have an exact formula, doesn't matter.  The fact is there is a massive amount of product at extremely low prices.  To the point that one would need to promote at a very high rate just to be seen.

If I search airmail cover by USA only, I get 90,000 items, if I search by world, I get 110,000 items.  

If I search the category stamps by world, the system returns 11+ million results.  I get 530,000 results if I search only US Stamps.  

1930 US Stamps returns 58,000 plus results.  

I also searched many other non-stamp categories

Unless you're close too the top of searches or you have a good repeat customer base, expect the sales drought to continue or worsen...meaning even the trickle of sales will cease.  

 

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Interesting.......

Folks are buying your rocks and LP's these days ?

Kettle calling pot black much ?!

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Not true........

eBay no longer has the market cornered like they used to.

30+ new platforms have popped up in just the last year, and eBay is presently waist deep in the quicksand.

Your panic is amusing......you need to get out more.

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@richardwillardcollection wrote:

I see the things you sell in our thrift shops price well below what you want. We here feel we dont want to invest in any glass at any price. We want food and gas, not glass. Have you ever considered no one wants your items at any price, for yes, months? It must be true because we can clearly seee your listings on your page! So can every one else. Bad time to sell glass. Try raising the price and promote your listings at 15% and see what happens?


What ...... the ........???

Why of all people in this thread are you coming at me like this?  I haven't replied to it in over a month, and never tagged you by the way. 

Also a whopping FOUR of my items are glass.  

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