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Sudden drop in sales May 2022

Please, report 13E9AEB6-1AE4-4BE0-9A83-516FDA4C16F6.jpeghere if you recently within a week or so experienced sudden drop in sales. We can then ask Velvet to pass it on to technical team for review of the accounts. https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Updates-are-happening-to-some-item-specifics-and-category/m-p/...

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velvet@ebay   First let me say you have been more then helpful and responsive and involved on this thread then we would have expected from a direct eBay employee AND let me emphasize that the frustration expressed here by many of us Sellers is NOT and I repeat NOT directed at you.  You (or any other eBay Team Member) are the "go between" us and the various departments involved inside eBay.  We know it is a good size corporation, we know it has its own procedures and policies to follow as it relates to the interaction between departments ... call that company politics if you will.  We know that statements that will be published publicly have to be crafted in a specific manner and probably have to go through a couple levels of approval before given to the eBay Team to share with Sellers.  So Seller responses here are really meant for those who prepared the statements and NOT those who deliver them ...  in this case that would be you.  So we are not shooting the messenger, to quote an old phrase.  So thank you again for what you have done thus far. 

If one were to read through all of the posts here along with posts from other "drop in sales" threads it would become quite apparent that there truly is a problem ... and to be honest it would go a long way with Sellers if someone would simply come out and admit to that fact.

 

Regards,

 

Mr. L

 

Best regards,
Mr. Lincoln - Community Mentor
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@mr_lincoln wrote:

velvet@ebay   First let me say you have been more then helpful and responsive and involved on this thread then we would have expected from a direct eBay employee AND let me emphasize that the frustration expressed here by many of us Sellers is NOT and I repeat NOT directed at you.  You (or any other eBay Team Member) are the "go between" us and the various departments involved inside eBay.  We know it is a good size corporation, we know it has its own procedures and policies to follow as it relates to the interaction between departments ... call that company politics if you will.  We know that statements that will be published publicly have to be crafted in a specific manner and probably have to go through a couple levels of approval before given to the eBay Team to share with Sellers.  So Seller responses here are really meant for those who prepared the statements and NOT those who deliver them ...  in this case that would be you.  So we are not shooting the messenger, to quote an old phrase.  So thank you again for what you have done thus far. 

If one were to read through all of the posts here along with posts from other "drop in sales" threads it would become quite apparent that there truly is a problem ... and to be honest it would go a long way with Sellers if someone would simply come out and admit to that fact.

 

Regards,

 

Mr. L

 


I agree with the sentiment. I'm not upset with velvet directly. It's just frustrating that we can't get a response, period. Unfortunately, that leaves the messenger to deal with a frustrating situation.

 

This is similar to past issues with eBay representatives on here. Often times, such as this, a response from the appropriate team is treated as PR and not really addressing the problems brought up.

 

It puts us in a situation where all we could hope for is one of the eBay reps will go up to bat for us. To communicate on our behalf that these responses are frankly rubbish and dismissive. 

 

I will quote someone during a discussion we've had about this subject in the past:

"They may just be feeding them a line to pass on to us, that's not necessarily their fault and they may not even be aware enough to have known it, but now that it has been exposed the buck has to stop somewhere.  If they don't like it being them, then they need to push it back to whoever is peddling this information and get some real answers."

 

That's the honest truth of how sellers feel. We know it's not the messenger. But we're in a situation where we need answers, and if the appropriate team isn't doing their job and taking these concerns seriously, I would hope that this would actually be addressed rather than just accepted. From search teams to the tech teams, glitch after glitch adding up, we've been told for years that there's "not a problem" when given clear evidence that there is indeed a problem. Can someone please go to bat for us? 

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100% agree- we are beyond happy with Velvet's continued attention and responses- keep up the good work- it must be difficult to be between a rock and a hard place!

   We just need someone at the top to realize that sellers are ebay's BIGGEST asset and should be treated as such- we have a collective of hundreds of thousands of years experience in selling on this platform alone and would be willing to wager that we have been buying and selling on ebay longer than 99% of the employees working there!   

   Someone or some team made a very big booboo, or a collection of small booboos that compound on each other and have disrupted the normal sales flows on ebay- site wide or not- its a real issue.

Maybe its just a folly of unintended consequences  but it does not matter now- it just needs to be addressed.  Sellers are NOT just noise to be ignored..... I thought we were supposed to be passed the Wenig days of screwing and ignoring sellers and hunting down journalists?

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@zamo-zuan wrote:

@mr_lincoln wrote:

velvet@ebay   First let me say you have been more then helpful and responsive and involved on this thread then we would have expected from a direct eBay employee AND let me emphasize that the frustration expressed here by many of us Sellers is NOT and I repeat NOT directed at you.  You (or any other eBay Team Member) are the "go between" us and the various departments involved inside eBay.  We know it is a good size corporation, we know it has its own procedures and policies to follow as it relates to the interaction between departments ... call that company politics if you will.  We know that statements that will be published publicly have to be crafted in a specific manner and probably have to go through a couple levels of approval before given to the eBay Team to share with Sellers.  So Seller responses here are really meant for those who prepared the statements and NOT those who deliver them ...  in this case that would be you.  So we are not shooting the messenger, to quote an old phrase.  So thank you again for what you have done thus far. 

If one were to read through all of the posts here along with posts from other "drop in sales" threads it would become quite apparent that there truly is a problem ... and to be honest it would go a long way with Sellers if someone would simply come out and admit to that fact.

 

Regards,

 

Mr. L

 


I agree with the sentiment. I'm not upset with velvet directly. It's just frustrating that we can't get a response, period. Unfortunately, that leaves the messenger to deal with a frustrating situation.

 

This is similar to past issues with eBay representatives on here. Often times, such as this, a response from the appropriate team is treated as PR and not really addressing the problems brought up.

 

It puts us in a situation where all we could hope for is one of the eBay reps will go up to bat for us. To communicate on our behalf that these responses are frankly rubbish and dismissive. 

 

I will quote someone during a discussion we've had about this subject in the past:

"They may just be feeding them a line to pass on to us, that's not necessarily their fault and they may not even be aware enough to have known it, but now that it has been exposed the buck has to stop somewhere.  If they don't like it being them, then they need to push it back to whoever is peddling this information and get some real answers."

 

That's the honest truth of how sellers feel. We know it's not the messenger. But we're in a situation where we need answers, and if the appropriate team isn't doing their job and taking these concerns seriously, I would hope that this would actually be addressed rather than just accepted. From search teams to the tech teams, glitch after glitch adding up, we've been told for years that there's "not a problem" when given clear evidence that there is indeed a problem. Can someone please go to bat for us? 


@zamo-zuan   ... I am hoping the new Monthly Chat (with representatives from various departments) will wind up being more effective then what grew to be an ineffective Weekly Chat.  I have absolutely no doubt that all the people involved with the programming at eBay come here and read these boards to see what Sellers are saying ... I would hazard a guess that some of them are probably saying, "you know, they are right" or "yep, they hit the nail on the head" ... but their hands are tied to actually be able to come out here and state that.

Best regards,
Mr. Lincoln - Community Mentor
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@mr_lincoln wrote:

@zamo-zuan wrote:

@mr_lincoln wrote:

velvet@ebay   First let me say you have been more then helpful and responsive and involved on this thread then we would have expected from a direct eBay employee AND let me emphasize that the frustration expressed here by many of us Sellers is NOT and I repeat NOT directed at you.  You (or any other eBay Team Member) are the "go between" us and the various departments involved inside eBay.  We know it is a good size corporation, we know it has its own procedures and policies to follow as it relates to the interaction between departments ... call that company politics if you will.  We know that statements that will be published publicly have to be crafted in a specific manner and probably have to go through a couple levels of approval before given to the eBay Team to share with Sellers.  So Seller responses here are really meant for those who prepared the statements and NOT those who deliver them ...  in this case that would be you.  So we are not shooting the messenger, to quote an old phrase.  So thank you again for what you have done thus far. 

If one were to read through all of the posts here along with posts from other "drop in sales" threads it would become quite apparent that there truly is a problem ... and to be honest it would go a long way with Sellers if someone would simply come out and admit to that fact.

 

Regards,

 

Mr. L

 


I agree with the sentiment. I'm not upset with velvet directly. It's just frustrating that we can't get a response, period. Unfortunately, that leaves the messenger to deal with a frustrating situation.

 

This is similar to past issues with eBay representatives on here. Often times, such as this, a response from the appropriate team is treated as PR and not really addressing the problems brought up.

 

It puts us in a situation where all we could hope for is one of the eBay reps will go up to bat for us. To communicate on our behalf that these responses are frankly rubbish and dismissive. 

 

I will quote someone during a discussion we've had about this subject in the past:

"They may just be feeding them a line to pass on to us, that's not necessarily their fault and they may not even be aware enough to have known it, but now that it has been exposed the buck has to stop somewhere.  If they don't like it being them, then they need to push it back to whoever is peddling this information and get some real answers."

 

That's the honest truth of how sellers feel. We know it's not the messenger. But we're in a situation where we need answers, and if the appropriate team isn't doing their job and taking these concerns seriously, I would hope that this would actually be addressed rather than just accepted. From search teams to the tech teams, glitch after glitch adding up, we've been told for years that there's "not a problem" when given clear evidence that there is indeed a problem. Can someone please go to bat for us? 


@zamo-zuan   ... I am hoping the new Monthly Chat (with representatives from various departments) will wind up being more effective then what grew to be an ineffective Weekly Chat.  I have absolutely no doubt that all the people involved with the programming at eBay come here and read these boards to see what Sellers are saying ... I would hazard a guess that some of them are probably saying, "you know, they are right" or "yep, they hit the nail on the head" ... but their hands are tied to actually be able to come out here and state that.


I don't have faith in the changes in chat based on what we'd seen so far.

 

I have been told by phone CS directly that they know the site has problems and they actively work together to try to find the common denominators. They've found things in the past, too. But when sending these reports to the tech team, the tech team dismisses it and says "There's no problem". So they express the same frustrations with the tech team, and feel just as helpless.

 

I'd also met in person with Senior Management on several occasions. As they put it, "eBay is a very big ship so it takes time to steer". But their very first words to me were that "They know there's problems, so they want us to be completely honest with them".  They had gave us connections to contact them in case of major issues, but even they weren't able to accomplish much.

 

I'd had several zoom meetings with eBay staff since the pandemic started. They seem helpful enough and like they care. But even they don't have much capabilities. Our top feedback wasn't taken in to consideration. And I had displayed some of the tech issues/glitches/problems live to them. They had said they will report it to the appropriate team. To this day, those glitches are still happening.

 

I do think there's people at eBay that care. But the "appropriate teams" just don't do their job. And it seems there's no oversight or pressure against them to actually have to do things right. 

 

I don't know what corporate politics might be involved. But we need answers, we need these issues to be escalated to the proper channels, and we need the ACTUAL LEADERS to be aware that these problems have been adding up since 2017-2018 and hitting more and more of a breaking point.

 

Things need to be FIXED before building more on top of a broken foundation. Because building on top of a broken foundation means if you ever get around to fixing something at the bottom, everything built on top of it is no longer stable because it was built for broken supports. This is one of the first things you learn as a software developer, and eBay has consistently broken this rule. For YEARS now. And at this point, they don't even know what is intended or not intended. 

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@mr_lincoln wrote:


@zamo-zuan   ... I am hoping the new Monthly Chat (with representatives from various departments) will wind up being more effective then what grew to be an ineffective Weekly Chat.  I have absolutely no doubt that all the people involved with the programming at eBay come here and read these boards to see what Sellers are saying ... I would hazard a guess that some of them are probably saying, "you know, they are right" or "yep, they hit the nail on the head" ... but their hands are tied to actually be able to come out here and state that.


i don't know, I stopped going to weekly chat when they had it cause everything and anything is blown off with some lame excuse or reason or not addressed at all...no doubt the "monthly" chat would the same way but the same people. Thousands have reported the issues of various to CS, whose only job is to MAKE A REPORT and SEND IT TO TECH SUPPORT. Thousands have wept their souls apart TRYING to post on thread after thread after thread on the issues...3-4 months since all this started and ebay has done NOTHING but avoid it like it's the black plauge (or covid since they are in CA) and just provide excuse after excuse after excuse to dodge any real attempt to assess the problems and FIX them. If anyone believes monthly chat will change ANYTHING you are a much more giving person then me. 

The great truth is there isn't one
And it only gets worse since that conclusion...
...There is something about the rigid posture of a proper, authentic blind
As if extended arms reached to pass his blindness onto others.
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Forget it. Nobody is buying anything. Liquidation re-sellers are overloaded with unsold goods from retailers. eBay was losing buyers for a long time. Add that to a recession and it’s clear it’s time to find a new hobby.

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Yep my sales have ground to a halt. Very strange. I have reached out to ebay who claims to be looking into the issue.  I think they have problem they are covering up. 

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Well the one thing I could sell even with far less views looks dead now, not even 10 views in 5 hours and after the changes I'd still get 100 first hour vs the 400 before them.  

  Time to take it all to the marketplace In my opinion, I've been grinding over there so I'll try this other stuff too. 

 

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Wow

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However, we recognize sales as a whole have decreased a little. We speculate this is related to the end of lock-downs across most of the world as we see this across the board with online sales. 

 

How stupid does the eBay team think those of us who have been on eBay for 20 plus years are?   Maybe your "team" should go to work for the Biden administration- that sounds like a conclusion they would come up with. 

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However, we recognize sales as a whole have decreased a little. We speculate this is related to the end of lock-downs across most of the world as we see this across the board with online sales. 🤣😂

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Hi all - you can add me to the list. My sales dropped near 50% in May compared to May 2021. And about 40-45% in May previous years. And I sell in several categories - listed on ebay.com, but selling worldwide - ALL went down. 

I sell collectibles and rare parts (which always are needed for repair for collectors, or resellers - especially if THEY want to sell their items than)  and what can´t be found just "around the corner" in brick and mortar shops or anywhere else.

In my case also the absolute idiotic change of categories in collectibles had already caused a tremendous decline in sales.

So Ebay - START LISTEN TO YOUR EXPERIENCED SELLERS.

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Oh - and my sales on other venues didn´t decline ! 

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Having the same problem. View count has been broken for months. So many listings with no views but multiple watchers. When I call, customer service gives me view count numbers in the thousands on items that show 0 on my end. Sales have died. I was selling multiple items a day and now going weeks without selling even with posting daily. Sharing my listings to social media used to help. Now the only way I've been able to sell is sending offers. I even tried promoted listings and nothing. My other platforms are selling daily so its not that buyers aren't buying.

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