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Setting themself up for a rude shock

I don't know... maybe it's just me, but it seems to me that a statement like this as the first line in an item description is just begging for trouble. Not to mention a very rude surprise when someone does return it for "Item not as described". All they're doing is pointing out that INAD exists as a reason for return.

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Re: Setting themself up for a rude shock

Well, that's one way to repel decent, honest, experienced buyers and attract the opposite. 

 

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Re: Setting themself up for a rude shock

I see a lot of these, honest errors on the one hand or deceptive practice on the other...

 

One I saw the other day showed four of an item in the first picture, every other picture showed just one and then after clicking through it became clear the seller was selling just one...
That's also asking for a SNAD, the auction of an item for sale must match ALL of Pictures, description, title and anything and everything else in that listing... If even one item specific states something that it is not,  or even one picture shows something it isn't, that is reason for a SNAD.

 

I normally stay away from that kind of stuff also, mostly because it's just not worth the hassle and I don't order things knowing full and well what is coming, but there are folks out there who specifically hunt for these types of listings in the hopes of securing free or heavily discounted merchandise.

 

The thing is, if a seller fights such a buyer they are bound to lose more than they bargained for...

All the buyer has to do is stand their ground, and when that SNAD times out they get a full refund and if the seller never accepted the return or never issued a label the buyer gets to keep the item, too.

(I sometimes wonder how many of these sellers come here later screaming of "scammers?")

 

So yes, disclaimers such as in the OP not only attract the wrong kind of buyer but it deters good buyers as well.

 

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Your post reminds me of the pictures of a large box or boxes of jewelry but the title states the buyer will only receive 5 or 6 of the sellers choice 

 

And I love(hate)  the listings that 10lbs of books again of the ' sellers random' selection

 

Both very misleading if you do not read the listing

Buyer would expect all items pictured if you fail to read the details

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Re: Setting themself up for a rude shock

You see sellers put things like that into their listing now and then.

 

There used to be bidders with user names like  AUCTION CLOSED ,   DO NOT BID  or   SELLER SUSPENDED

 

In hopes of keeping others from bidding.  Not sure if that ever worked either.

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Re: Setting themself up for a rude shock

Well technically an auction is a contract and I suppose if the buyer violated the terms you could take them to court($$$$$$)and win but ebay will just drop you like an anvil only on YOUR foot. 

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Oh I should add that because you're not accepting cash you could be bound by laws governing payment processors and or rules of payment processors.  I've sold some junk this year and the more junkier it was I made sure I pointed that out in the title line because the description is optional on ebay's phone app.  

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Instead of guessing, you should check the seller out. All you have to do is click on the seller's feed back number.

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I see stuff all the time in listings---like let me know if you want insurance and I'll send you the bill, I take returns but not if you change your mind, I'm not responsible once it leaves my hands etc etc.

 

I attribute some to ignorance, but others are just trying to bully or fool the buyer that may not know the rules.

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You can put whatever you want in a description. Does not change eBay's terms of service. Any buyer could make a INAD dispute despite what the seller says. As a buyer, I would be looking elsewhere

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Re: Setting themself up for a rude shock


@friskya wrote:

@dbfolks166mt wrote:

Let me guess Sri Lankan seller by chance??


 

Surprisingly (?) enough, no. US registered for many years now. A top-rated seller, selling mostly vintage and collectible cigarette lighters. 


Are you sure it's a US seller? I'm seeing the location as Athens, Greece. 

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Re: Setting themself up for a rude shock

The original violator of terms is the seller who violated eBay's terms but inserting such a disclaimer in his ad.

 

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Re: Setting themself up for a rude shock

Hi @friskya 

 

The statement is a little more direct ... but similar to a disclaimer I've seen in a lot of listings:

 

Not responsible for any loss or damage to items once they've been shipped.

 

I've also never understood sellers who state 'Pictures are part of the description' ... as if buyers can easily distinguish flaws in the item from photographic flaws ... often in blurry photos.  Ah, well.

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@albertabrightalberta wrote:

@friskya wrote:

@dbfolks166mt wrote:

Let me guess Sri Lankan seller by chance??


Surprisingly (?) enough, no. US registered for many years now. A top-rated seller, selling mostly vintage and collectible cigarette lighters. 


Are you sure it's a US seller? I'm seeing the location as Athens, Greece. 


A text search for that phrase shows it being used in more than one seller account. A lot of them copy from each other when they find some official-sounding phrases that they like.

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Re: Setting themself up for a rude shock


@albertabrightalberta wrote:

@friskya wrote:

@dbfolks166mt wrote:

Let me guess Sri Lankan seller by chance??


 

Surprisingly (?) enough, no. US registered for many years now. A top-rated seller, selling mostly vintage and collectible cigarette lighters. 


Are you sure it's a US seller? I'm seeing the location as Athens, Greece. 


Absolutely positive. https://www.ebay.com/itm/174940269753 (Naples, FL)

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