01-13-2022 08:59 AM
Searched "north America maps" and ebay search now seems to show every item listed in the Antique-North America map sub-category which is over 100,000 items and most are just state, city and or country maps. Why does Ebay make it more difficult to find the actual item you search? I search this category nearly everyday and this seems to just happened.
01-13-2022 11:26 PM
It is getting harder to refine search. Keep getting all sorts of items when searching for vinyl. Will refine it to a specific artist and about 1/2 of the search results are anything but. Very frustrating. Can't buy it or sell it, if not found in search!!
01-14-2022 01:47 AM
North America is pretty big, three entire nations in fact.
What happens when you adjust your Search parameters a bit more Chagrin Falls Ohio USA for example? How many do you get then? Are they all of that town?
Or add a date range? Or a maker's name?
You can also adjust your Search to avoid the default Best Match. My preferred Search is Highest Price plus Shipping, to avoid the bottom end trash. And it's faster to drill down to my actual budget than to wade through pages of garbage.
01-14-2022 02:34 AM
Try searching for the following:
”North America” map
that will greatly limit the results.
01-14-2022 05:07 AM - edited 01-14-2022 05:07 AM
Ebays changes to the categories and searching late last year has forced us to shop elsewhere. We can't be bothered searching through trash.
01-14-2022 05:43 AM
The search engine is an absolute disaster. The people at ebay that made these ridiculous changes should be fired.
01-14-2022 06:06 AM
@katzrul15 wrote:It is getting harder to refine search. Keep getting all sorts of items when searching for vinyl. Will refine it to a specific artist and about 1/2 of the search results are anything but. Very frustrating. Can't buy it or sell it, if not found in search!!
Yep. Not only that but the first few items shown in search are literally not even close to what I search for. For example I can search for a brand and model of shoe and the first few listings shown are promoted listings for hats. Whatever they have done to search is terribly broken making it next to useless. I do a lot of my searches using google. They can actually find what I am looking for on eBay.
I second the motion to fire whatever team or person that "upgraded" the search engine and category fiasco.
01-14-2022 06:43 AM
eBay's search has always had an issue with searches where the search criteria match a category name.
If you put "north america" in quotes and search all categories, it should do an exact match on words in the title.
But when I do that, I notice that many sellers have chosen to put their North America maps into the "World maps" category rather than the North America" maps category.
01-14-2022 06:51 AM
eBay appears to be doing away with many small categories. Instead of using separate categories to differentiate between certain things, eBay wants to use filters instead.
So from the 88,000 or so North America Maps category you reached with that search, you can use the filters to further divide your results into various subjects:
You will likely have to modify your saved search to limit things to just the "Antique Original" results or limit by year or other filter if you do not want to see the entire North America category.
01-14-2022 08:50 AM
Still shows city, state and other maps.
01-14-2022 08:52 AM
Doing that does not weed out the non north america maps. Also ALOT of sellers dont bother to even mark original, repro etc..
01-14-2022 10:02 AM
Doing that does not weed out the non north america maps.
It does if you select the relevant options for the US, Canada and Mexico -- then any map that does not include one of those item-specifics will be excluded from your results. You can choose Greenland as well, if you are interested in that, or any combination of those countries plus the Arctic Circle.
Also ALOT of sellers dont bother to even mark original, repro etc.
You can choose to include the ~2000 maps of "unspecified" authenticity, but then you will have to sort through many reproduction listings as well. No including that item specific when it is an important description of the item is basically the equivalent of the seller listing in the wrong category -- it makes it much harder for certain buyers to find that listing without looking through many irrelevant listings.
You can also include "antique" as a keyword to pick up some additional maps that include the term but not necessarily the exact item-specific.
I am assuming you are not interested in reproductions -- if you are, then you can leave out that filter setting entirely.
To filter further, choose the date range of interest. For example, the 1800s:
There are two basic ways a search can go wrong: false positives (items that do not match your search criteria appearing the results) and false negatives (items of interest that do not appear in your search at all). You can take steps to easily minimize one or the other, but minimizing both at the same time is very difficult. Note that this is true even where eBay uses distinct categories to separate items, as sellers are not always diligent in listing items in the correct category.
If you want to see only maps that meet all of your criteria, using the filters will accomplish that, but you may miss listings where the seller did not include relevant information.
If you want to see every possible map that meets your criteria, you will likely have to also sort through lots of maps that do not qualify to be sure you see the ones where the seller has a minimal description.
Sometimes it is worth doing both types of searches.
01-14-2022 10:25 AM
Still shows city, state and other maps.
If you are only looking for a map of the entirety of North America, rather than of just any location within North America, try a search using the quotes for "map of north america" :
01-14-2022 10:52 AM
The whole point of search is for it to show the items you are looking for. Most new buyers have no clue about refining searches and item specifics.
01-14-2022 12:07 PM
The whole point of search is for it to show the items you are looking for.
True, but part of that is that the buyer has to be able to specify what is being searched for to some degree. eBay has included some default assumptions based on what others have searched for and purchased in the past, but that can only go so far without additional information. Those assumptions do not always apply, and they can break down; different users often use the exact same keywords but have very different ideas of what results should be returned, and in some cases eBay may be returning results that are not well connected with the intended search.
If you ask for north America maps, the search will return any listing in the category North America Maps, which includes maps of North America but also any map of any specific part of that area. If you only want certain maps, you have to be able to specify which ones, and sellers have to also provide that information in those listings so buyers can use that information to find the right listings.
Most new buyers have no clue about refining searches and item specifics.
Most new buyers do not need to be experts in item-specifics to obtain some results when searching, and if the results do not match what the buyer is looking for, most new buyers will try a few things to see if the desired results are obtained.
An experienced seller can list an item in such a way that even the most inexperienced buyer can easily find it. And an experienced buyer can often find the listing of an inexperienced seller that does not include certain keywords or item-specifics. But an inexperienced buyer may have difficulty finding the listing of an inexperienced seller.
eBay is actually pretty good at divining what a user is searching for based on a few sparse or even misspelled keywords, but the more assumptions and exceptions are added to the rules, and the further eBay gets from simple text keyword matching, the greater the chances that the search will go wildly off track, particularly if the user is not searching for common items, or an unusual keyword is very similar to a much more popular keyword, or if users assume that keywords next to each other are grouped together when they are not (or vice versa).
Many current search problems are the result of old search rules breaking down when used in combination with the new category changes. The general rule -- if the search keywords match a category title, then show all the results of that category -- worked fairly well most of the time when there were many specific small categories. But now eBay has eliminated many small categories, and items that were in those small categories are now in much larger categories along with many other items, and the previous shortcut rule now returns many more items that are less related to the original search terms.