eBay

dhbookds · ‎01-08-2019

On the podcast this morn, Griff (?) said that when ebay has its payment system, immediate payment will work on offers..........

adkhighker · ‎01-08-2019

@dhbookds wrote:
On the podcast this morn, Griff (?) said that when ebay has its payment system, immediate payment will work on offers..........

If immediate payment will work on offers after ebay has its new payment system, did he say why they can't make it work now with PayPal?

adkhighker · ‎01-08-2019

@sharingtheland wrote:
@jason_incognito wrote:
There is no viable way to put it on auctions.
Of course there is. Any other online auction site I use has my payment information on file and immediately uses that to pay for my winning bid.

The only difference here is the much larger number of auctions compared to a site that runs 20 or 30 auctions/day with 100-500 items in each auction.

As far as Best Offer and no one is around to know that the offer was accepted, same deal. If a buyer submits an offer, it's just like a bid - the buyer knows she/he must be willing and able to pay that amount.

It would be a huge undertaking and who knows how much mess when credit cards or paypal or whatever deny charges but that doesn't mean it can't be done. I can't bid or buy on a site if my credit card on file is out of date which is no programming biggy for ebay but charges against a credit card could be if the card is over its limit. If that made sense...

I mean, the process is no different than for any other site except that ebay has more auctions running. Of course, many end without bids.

Amen to everything you just said.

the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎01-08-2019

It would be immediate because they would consider it buyer initiated when the offer was made. The buyer knows what the amount will be and can explicitly approve the payment pending acceptance.

Once the seller accepts they will take the money from whatever payment method the buyer has on file.

the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎01-08-2019

Immediate payment on auctions has nothing to do with the volume of auctions. Ebay has decided that immediate payment would turn away many regular buyers who don't trust Ebay to take an unknown amount of money should they win. One of the pinks was talking about it the other day.

Most buyers pay for their auction wins. Ebay doesn't want to risk losing THOSE buyers just to force a few nonpayers to pay. AND we all know what happens when buyers are forced to pay. SNADs.

readabouthorses · ‎01-08-2019

@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:
It would be immediate because they would consider it buyer initiated when the offer was made. The buyer knows what the amount will be and can explicitly approve the payment pending acceptance.

Once the seller accepts they will take the money from whatever payment method the buyer has on file.

How will that work if the seller has multiple shipping options in the listing? Do I choose which shipping option I want when I make my offer?

the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎01-08-2019

That's a good question that I do not know the answer to.

moo*cow*corner · ‎01-08-2019

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Maybe they are thinking they could make all sellers use auto accept for BO. No picking and choosing buyers. Make buyers include their shipping preference when they make their offer. Standardize everything and take away all choices on both sides.

If the offer is at or above the seller's auto accept price, they have to pay so the listing will end, like immediate payment currently works on fixed price listings. If below, the listing stays live until someone triggers the auto accept.

Buyers and sellers could still haggle through messages until an agreement is reached, or not.

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luckythewinner · ‎01-08-2019

@juststuffisell wrote:
can't imagine when they don't already have that in place for "auto accept" offers.

Because eBay does not take payments from buyers.

All buyer payments are buyer-initiated.

dhbookds · ‎01-08-2019

@adkhighker wrote:
@dhbookds wrote:
On the podcast this morn, Griff (?) said that when ebay has its payment system, immediate payment will work on offers..........
If immediate payment will work on offers after ebay has its new payment system, did he say why they can't make it work now with PayPal?

no

sharingtheland · ‎01-08-2019

Immediate payment on auctions has nothing to do with the volume of auctions. Ebay has decided that immediate payment would turn away many regular buyers who don't trust Ebay to take an unknown amount of money should they win. One of the pinks was talking about it the other day.

I was referring to volume here being an issue just because of the huge amount of data to handle, much more than most (all) online auction sites.

How is a winning bid an unknown-to-the-bidder-amount? It's either exactly what the bidder placed as a max bid or it's less than that; it's never going to be more.

If ebay has decided regular buyers don't trust ebay to take their money, that's a much bigger problem than we can solve.

I assume you meant a blue, not a pink - you're dating yourself.

Sherry

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the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎01-09-2019

Ebay does not currently take payments from buyers. They will with Adyen though, as long as the buyer preapproves the amount.

jason_incognito · ‎01-09-2019

@readabouthorses wrote:
@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:
It would be immediate because they would consider it buyer initiated when the offer was made. The buyer knows what the amount will be and can explicitly approve the payment pending acceptance.

Once the seller accepts they will take the money from whatever payment method the buyer has on file.

How will that work if the seller has multiple shipping options in the listing? Do I choose which shipping option I want when I make my offer?

Have you had to use the new beginner level listing tool? There is one shipping option. I would not at all be surprised if eBay made one shipping option the norm soon. Most of my buyers just pay the first one.

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jason_incognito · ‎01-09-2019

I pay for things many different ways.

Most of the time I use my debit card. My husband uses his debit card ( a different account)

Some things I use a credit card. I rotate my cards so that I use all of them a little.

I would not want to have that many cards on file for the pickings when someone hacks eBay.

The more complicated they want to make it just to make an offer, the fewer offers I will make. the fewer things I will buy.... off eBay.

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sharingtheland · ‎01-09-2019

I think the word "take" is hanging us up, dog.

I don't know if A uses a payment manager (I doubt it; have to google this) or if it's done inhouse but A, and all other sites, "take" my money. I pay it to them by using my credit card or paypal but I'm totally unaware of what goes in on the background to get the money from my account to a site's coffers.

I suspect that thought, or lack thereof, is the same with almost all buyers. Even knowing I bought something from an ebay or A third party seller, someone asks "where'd you get that?" and my answer will be ebay or A.

Even with Adyen, ebay isn't "taking" the money; Adyen will just as paypal does now. Right ?

Sherry

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the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎01-09-2019

I'm not arguing BTW, I'm trying to figure this out like everyone else

For all intents and purposes Paypal is and was a separate company. When you bought, Ebay kicked you over to Paypal for payment like other sites do.

I don't think Adyen is going to work the same way Paypal did. All seller payments will be handled by Adyen under orders from Ebay. Buyer payments will also go through Adyen. I think Adyen and Ebay are going to be much more tightly integrated than Paypal was. So it's not a far leap to me that they will have more "benefits" than Paypal provided.