05-18-2018 09:54 PM
Buyer sent me an email earlier today about an item they received damaged. I work days. Didn't even have a chance to in any way address their issue - there were numerous ways to handle this situation: I have more of the same bobble head; I could have sent them a new one; I could have refunded them.
I didn't even get a chance to respond via email to them to discuss how they wanted to proceed.
What the heck?
05-20-2018 05:32 AM
When you (we) get a neg like this........first thing is to do is to decide what YOU want.......
1. Accept the neg, keep the money
2. Prepare to refund all, in the hopes you can get the neg removed.
Depending on which direction you want to go, you then proceed....
If #1, calm down and compose a reply to the feedback that shows you in the best possible light....no accusations about what the buyer did wrong...... and then let it go.....
#2, email the customer, apologizing for the problem, and acknowledging his point of view....."I can certainly understand why you are upset that the item arrived broken" blah, blah. Propose a solution.....after I receive photos for insurance purposes, I will immediately refund the total amount of the sale/mail a replacement. I am sorry I couldn't answer your email immediately, but certainly do want to be sure that this matter is resolved to your satisfaction.
AFTER all is resolved, as Mam says, mail the feedback retraction with the explanation.......with another apology. If buyer doesn't respond......go to #1 and let it go. " My apologies the box was damaged, refunded/replacement sent."
All the angst about whether the buyer should have done blah blah.....is of no matter....... What matters is what resolution YOU want after this has taken place.... Your goal is to come out looking good, NOT teaching the buyer how to act/react. That is not your job, nor will you ever achieve it with some people.
At the same time, reading this........your reactions sound similar to the buyer's...... you want quick responses from him and make interpretations of why you haven't gotten them as fast as you think you should have. He has a life, just as you do, and bugging him with repeated messages could result in even more animosity.
05-20-2018 06:42 AM
Latest response from the buyer:
This is a family account. When the issue was brought to my attn I should have handled it with you and I didn't. My fault. If you would be willing to replace the little champ bobble head I will return the broken one, Will that work? I will update the feedback now. Sorry for the issue this has caused.
They also appear to have removed the feedback. Whew. Some times this site is frustrating.
05-20-2018 09:57 AM
@saintpaulgolf wrote:Latest response from the buyer:
This is a family account. When the issue was brought to my attn I should have handled it with you and I didn't. My fault. If you would be willing to replace the little champ bobble head I will return the broken one, Will that work? I will update the feedback now. Sorry for the issue this has caused.
They also appear to have removed the feedback. Whew. Some times this site is frustrating.
I hope you know, you got lucky here. This could have easily gone the other way for you.
You are expecting selling on Ebay to be a level playing field between buyers and sellers and it is NOT. You expected your buyer to answer emails right away and they didn't. That upset you because they didn't like waiting for a response from you. It just doesn't work that way here. You are going to get upset way too often over things that are normal on Ebay as your expectations aren't supported by the facts of selling here.
Since your buyer is now saying there is an item broken in the order. As the buyer they should have opened a SNAD. That should have been what they did first and not leave the negative FB. It appears you have a buyer that does not know the proper format of handling a situation like this. They may have thought that leaving negative FB was the only way to get a seller's attention.
So I hope you will do right by this buyer and either accept the return of the broken item or refund the buyer for the item broken. Whatever you decide, you got luck and had a buyer that was willing to change the FB.
05-20-2018 11:00 AM
Hi, every seller will end up with an undeserved neg if they sell long enough. Buyers know this. One negative feedback will not dissuade a buyer. And now that feedback no longer affects our selling metrics, it has even less power to hurt our accounts. (So the only way a single neg can hurt a seller is for him to leave an unprofessional follow-up remark. Prospective buyers can surmise a seller’s suitability in this way.)
Keeping feedback scores in perspective will save a seller much angst. Your neg is a pinprick, not a death blow. Like other posters advised, it’s business, not personal. So hang in there, take a deep breath, and let it go. Wishing you all the best.
05-20-2018 12:09 PM - edited 05-20-2018 12:14 PM
@pattiodolls wrote:
Buyer left me negative feedback after I refunded item immediately eBay said nothing I can do about this if I continue to sell will do it elseware
To explain, refunding does not disallow the buyer to post feedback expressing their opinion of the transaction. A refund doesn't make everything perfect or make everything go away. A refund may signify an issue with the transaction, so the buyer may not have been happy. The refund doesn't erase that unhappiness, it just makes the buyer whole again. So the buyer retains the right to voice his opinion of that transaction.
If he wanted his money back, he wouldn't have bought the item in the first place.
Most probably other sites would handle this the same way; best thing for your protection is to avoid the issue that caused the problem.
05-20-2018 12:10 PM - edited 05-20-2018 12:14 PM
@pattiodolls wrote:
Not according to eBay have had positive feedback for three years a buyer that I immediately refunded left me negative and eBay told me nothing I can do
Why did you refund the buyer?
05-20-2018 06:54 PM
The buyer contacted me and said I shipped to wrong address so I refunded item was shipped back to me so I delisted and then buyer left me negative feedback
@castlemagicmemories wrote:
@pattiodolls wrote:
Not according to eBay have had positive feedback for three years a buyer that I immediately refunded left me negative and eBay told me nothing I can doWhy did you refund the buyer?
05-20-2018 11:06 PM
@pattiodolls wrote:The buyer contacted me and said I shipped to wrong address so I refunded item was shipped back to me so I delisted and then buyer left me negative feedback
@castlemagicmemories wrote:
@pattiodolls wrote:
Not according to eBay have had positive feedback for three years a buyer that I immediately refunded left me negative and eBay told me nothing I can doWhy did you refund the buyer?
Then call Ebay tomorrow. You have the tracking which will show that you shipped the item. The payment notice shows the address you were suppose to ship the item. And you shipping lable shows the address in which you shipped it to. If the buyer gave you an incorrect address, then you have a good chance of getting Ebay to remove the FB.
For future reference, it is NOT a good idea to respond to negative FB or neutral FB unless you are sure you can't get it removed. And then if you respond, it should be a factual response only. Nothing to enflame the situation or you end up getting an additional response from the buyer like you did. That does more damage that good.
05-21-2018 09:31 AM
I disagree about responding to trash feedback.
I think if you word it correctly (and that is very had with so few characters to use) you can help yourself.
Yes there is a chance someone follows up with lies (it's happened to me) but still...
BTW I have had a negative reversed by eBay customer service once, as I recall. So yes there is that avenue if it is defamatory or left in a manner that wasn't within eBay guidelines.
05-21-2018 10:18 AM
@saintpaulgolf wrote:I disagree about responding to trash feedback.
I think if you word it correctly (and that is very had with so few characters to use) you can help yourself.
Yes there is a chance someone follows up with lies (it's happened to me) but still...
BTW I have had a negative reversed by eBay customer service once, as I recall. So yes there is that avenue if it is defamatory or left in a manner that wasn't within eBay guidelines.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, however there is a time and place for it. And as you say, wording is of the utmost importance. ALWAYS be PROFESSIONAL. It does NOT look good to prospective customers to see the seller rant, get too emotional or otherwise be less than professional and polite.
Many times a seller's response to FB is worse than the FB itself.
But I don't recommend leaving a comment to the FB before you have exhausted all your ways of getting it removed by Ebay or possibly having the buyer willingly revise the FB first. Because sometimes that comment will upset your buyer more and prevent them from even wanting to work with you. Or maybe Ebay won't like what you posted and therefore not be as willing to work with you. I suggest waiting before commenting to make sure the FB is going to stick first. Then if you just can't get it removed or revise, comment as you see fit, but hopefully something that is factual and not emotional or inflamitory.
05-21-2018 10:50 AM
If someone leaves a negative before I can handle their complaint then I feel that's the end of it they made their choice drew their line in the sand and there is nothing more to be done.
05-21-2018 10:59 AM
@rolenboy01 wrote:If someone leaves a negative before I can handle their complaint then I feel that's the end of it they made their choice drew their line in the sand and there is nothing more to be done.
It doesn't have to be that way, but I respect that this is the way you choose to operate your account.
05-21-2018 11:00 AM
@rolenboy01 wrote:If someone leaves a negative before I can handle their complaint then I feel that's the end of it they made their choice drew their line in the sand and there is nothing more to be done.
Wait! Per your FB page you have had FB revised.
05-21-2018 01:35 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@rolenboy01 wrote:If someone leaves a negative before I can handle their complaint then I feel that's the end of it they made their choice drew their line in the sand and there is nothing more to be done.
Wait! Per your FB page you have had FB revised.
Your point? I didn't say it was always my policy.
05-21-2018 01:38 PM
@rolenboy01 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@rolenboy01 wrote:If someone leaves a negative before I can handle their complaint then I feel that's the end of it they made their choice drew their line in the sand and there is nothing more to be done.
Wait! Per your FB page you have had FB revised.
Your point? I didn't say it was always my policy.
I simply commented on what you said. You said "that's the end of it". Obviously not per your FB. That was my only point. You have on several occasions used the ability to get a FB revised. There is NOTHING wrong with that at all. Your post just made it sound like you never try to get FB revised as you feel it is said and done at that point.