eBay

ryanrobyn · ‎02-21-2018

Go and read for yourslf. I know that it is early and we might be surprised if it turns out okay, but from EVERYHING one reads, it wil be a gigantic gain for the Bonanza marketplace and the downfall of Ebay. People want and can afford used items. Why buy brand new items at ridiculous store prices, especially for children who immediately outgrow them? We are not Amazon and Ebay can never offer the prime shipping deal Amazon does. I could smell the beginning problem when I heard the Ebay chairman tell Trump that shipping takes 2 days to arrive. Dreamland is what I call it. The important thing to me is if the worst is stated will the store owners be allowed to end their yearly subscriptions without a BIG penalty or will they use it unfairly as a big revenue gain. Good luck to all - the buyers and sellers.

d-k_treasures · ‎02-23-2018

@vintagecraze50wrote:
Ebay needs the equivelent of Amazons ASIN codes for a lot of sellers here. Call it an ESIN.

Why would I create and apply a useless number for an antique or vintage item?

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percgrabbe-0 · ‎02-23-2018

So basically sellers wont see everyones listings and have fewer choices. Sounds as good as it will work. Horribly.

percgrabbe-0 · ‎02-23-2018

Think about it EBAY doesnt care if you make a sale. They already got you for the listing fees whether they sell or not. Then they list the competitors and big box store prices right in your listing and drive away your sales. Now they dont even want people to see your listing. This is going to go over like a lead balloon for ebay. People dont really come here for new items. They come here for missing parts and hard to find items and vintage collectible. EBAY is greedy and only cares about the fees they make from big ticket items and the money the big box stores are handing them to advertise on the listings us chumps create for them.

mistwomandancing · ‎02-23-2018

@tweetystwadeswrote:..........The other post about this topic, goes on for days. It is totally doom and gloom. I have no desire to read the updates now, as I am panicked already. The other thread states this is the end of the small seller, especially if we don't sell brand new items. I'm a bit panicked right now, I depend on selling here.

If eBay gets to the point where they aren't working very well for the *used* side of our online retail offerings, many sellers will emigrate to a few of the other sites where sellers deal in far more pre-owned merchandise. Just in these last few years those alternate sites have grown by quite a bit, which means buyers are there too. And as sites grow, the pace of their growth can usually be expected to snowball a bit.

Overall, it usually works out. But I wouldn't throw in the eBay towel quite yet. Give it a chance first before deciding how best to guide YOUR business into the future.

Ebay is making decisions geared to help THEM succeed and grow, even if those decisions don't always mesh with what all individual sellers need most. But those individual sellers can respond by moving on, if that is the smartest decision for their own future. Wait and see. Give it a chance.

fuzzface50 · ‎02-23-2018

So the person searching and willing to pay a decent price for a vintage original peice won't see it because they will be shown bad chinese knockoffs instead because they are the cheapest?

i rarely shop by cheapest **bleep** first.

tweetystwades · ‎02-23-2018

@mistwomandancingwrote:
@tweetystwadeswrote:..........The other post about this topic, goes on for days. It is totally doom and gloom. I have no desire to read the updates now, as I am panicked already. The other thread states this is the end of the small seller, especially if we don't sell brand new items. I'm a bit panicked right now, I depend on selling here.

If eBay gets to the point where they aren't working very well for the *used* side of our online retail offerings, many sellers will emigrate to a few of the other sites where sellers deal in far more pre-owned merchandise. Just in these last few years those alternate sites have grown by quite a bit, which means buyers are there too. And as sites grow, the pace of their growth can usually be expected to snowball a bit.

Overall, it usually works out. But I wouldn't throw in the eBay towel quite yet. Give it a chance first before deciding how best to guide YOUR business into the future.

Ebay is making decisions geared to help THEM succeed and grow, even if those decisions don't always mesh with what all individual sellers need most. But those individual sellers can respond by moving on, if that is the smartest decision for their own future. Wait and see. Give it a chance.

Oh, I will, I love selling here. Besides, my store subscription renewed last month. So, I have a year at least. I previously tried to sell on other sites with no luck, of course not the same amount of listings that I have here. I haven't had a sale on The Ranch for 2 years. Would love to know other sites people are using. E--y is for vintage, and I only had a couple things posted there. Didn't sell anything for 3 months, so I removed my listings. I would greatly appreciate info on any other sites to sell new and used items on. Thank you!

sandmansales · ‎02-23-2018

You can't catalog USED items.

Each item is unique be it a scratch on the screen or a small pinhead size ding on the side. A warranty that ends in June, one that ends in July. Missing the charger, has the charger, has the charger with small tear in cord. Spot on sleeve, small stain on front, no stains. All different, all unique. Period.

If ebay attempts to do this, it will fail categorically. It must fail by pure mathematics and logic.

(not directed at you tweety)

~Why be a second rate version of someone else when you can be a first rate version of yourself~

lookng2015 · ‎02-23-2018

But you have to remember their "vintage" is anything older than 20 years.

"If a product doesn't sell, raise the price" - Reese Palley
"If it sold FAST, it was priced too low" - also Reese Palley

lookng2015 · ‎02-23-2018

Yes, and applies to even NEW stuff.

I've had many buyers ask if they would get the "exact" new item pictured.

"If a product doesn't sell, raise the price" - Reese Palley
"If it sold FAST, it was priced too low" - also Reese Palley

mistwomandancing · ‎02-23-2018

@percgrabbe-0wrote:
So basically sellers wont see everyones listings and have fewer choices. Sounds as good as it will work. Horribly.

Except that in reality... most buyers make their picks from a very few of the best listings anyway. It doesn't matter that there are a dozen more listings of that same item. Prices aren't as good, sellers don't appear to be as safe/good to deal with, if it's preowned merchandise it isn't in as good condition, some sellers state they refuse returns so you get that "Buying a Pig in a Poke" feeling, etc. etc. Many, many reasons why some listings just aren't going to be considered.. at all.

In all the buying I've done here over many, many years, there always were just a few of the listings that were in contention for me. I'd just as soon be shown the few best ones up front and then be able to access the rest visually if I wasn't happy with those first offerings. Frankly, those best choices were almost always the ones I agreed with anyway. (Although I know it wouldn't feel good to those who don't rate so well in this.)

mistwomandancing · ‎02-23-2018

@percgrabbe-0wrote:
Think about it EBAY doesnt care if you make a sale..........Now they dont even want people to see your listing..........People dont really come here for new items. They come here for missing parts and hard to find items and vintage collectible.........

Actually, that is basically correct. Ebay doesn't much care if YOU make a sale as long as somebody makes the sale! Ebay is going to make sure the buyer sees the best of the best offerings right up front to make it as easy and quick and rewarding as possible for today's buyers.

But all buyers will have the opportunity to see your listings.. still.. if they want to bring up All The Rest and sort down through them as they do right now. So for buyers in a hurry, it will be fast and simple. For buyers who want to browse and shop that way, they can bring up all of it and look through everything to their heart's content.

You're wrong about people not coming here for new merchandise though.. that they only want the second-hand, used and vintage. Anymore, that area of goods (while VERY profitable!) only accounts for about 20% of all the transactions done on eBay. Which makes sense when we list out the types of stores in our own towns, most are sales of new merchandise with only a few second-hand stores being able to stay in business. Most folks still buy new. That's where the bulk of the money comes from.

In the end, I believe those sellers who have good product and great prices, shown in excellent listings and backed by prompt and top-rate service and attention to details will continue to thrive here, just like they always have out in the real world.

mistwomandancing · ‎02-23-2018

What I am more interested in finding out about is how this will all play out in the areas of our *used stuff* here. So, listings for all the old Corelle Butterfly Gold cereal bowls.. offerings of one bowl up to a lot of 12, some showing almost no past use, others listed only as Good Condition, etc. etc. etc. There is just so, so, so much to balance and take into consideration when shopping in the pre-owned areas. A little skeptical at the moment.

No true way to actually come up with the best four offerings to show potential buyers there, so I'm just waiting to see how this works. Sure not losing any sleep over it though as it's always panned out one way or another, and I always find a way, somewhere, to make IT work for me.

As usual, it's always like walking on ice around here.. feeling like you're maybe going to slip and fall any minute now.

lookng2015 · ‎02-23-2018

Mist, I'm also waiting to see how this pans out, but I'm still going to take my stores month to month as they come up for renewal.

"If a product doesn't sell, raise the price" - Reese Palley
"If it sold FAST, it was priced too low" - also Reese Palley

mistwomandancing · ‎02-23-2018

@lookng2015wrote:
Mist, I'm also waiting to see how this pans out, but I'm still going to take my stores month to month as they come up for renewal.

I do.

If I can't attend to them, maybe a family member can, etc. or they can be left to sit fallow, or dumped for awhile if I need to. With caring for DH and now my sister and all the appointments down at University Hospital with scans and tests and all... I'm not worrying too much about the stores.

The extra cost of month-to-month over subscription is more than worth it for me.

tweetystwades · ‎02-23-2018

@sandmansaleswrote:
You can't catalog USED items.
Each item is unique be it a scratch on the screen or a small pinhead size ding on the side. A warranty that ends in June, one that ends in July. Missing the charger, has the charger, has the charger with small tear in cord. Spot on sleeve, small stain on front, no stains. All different, all unique. Period.

If ebay attempts to do this, it will fail categorically. It must fail by pure mathematics and logic.

(not directed at you tweety)

I hope not, because I agree with everything you said. lol