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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

OK.  Why did eBay remove my post - and not others? 

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there


@fac9876 wrote:

"BLACK AMERICANA" is not my category - it is an official eBay posting category.  They obviously have no reason for using that category other than to entrap selected low volume sellers like myself.  As an ex-flea market dealer, I can assure you that most Black Americana collectors are black.  They see (and rightly so) a value in preserving all their history both good and bad.  So, in a way, our sanctimonious eBay - by depriving these legitimate black collectors of wanted merchandise - are themselves participating in hateful and discriminatory activity.


I don't disagree.  The cancel culture is alive and well.  And heaven forbid we try to sell it to a collector.


I inherited a massive collection of memorabilia pertaining to....let's just say...the iconic lady that everyone remembers....I don't even think I can say her name on the forums, someone may just report me lol.  A friend of mine had some items of the same type, and listed just one (this was a couple years ago).  She got slapped with a 7 day suspension.  Learned my lesson there so I didn't list any of mine.  It's a shame though because I know there are folks out there who would appreciate these items.  This same friend rents a booth in an antique mall, and they don't allow them there either.  When she questioned the owner about it, he said someone got very angry that those types of items were there for sale, so he had to have them pulled for fear of bad publicity.   These are simply items related to a food product mascot.  Go figure.  

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there


@fac9876 wrote:

So, posting non-violent Black Americana valentines and old minstrel programs are like getting away with murder?  What next?  Will eBay become woke enough to send FBI swat team to haul in us evil doers.  Or, better yet, maybe their staff should all join school boards. 



By what logic could you possibly infer that I was implying anything like that?  [You're hurting your own argument by spouting such nonsense.]  

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

"These are simply items related to a food product mascot. "

 

 

Its really pretty simple, Aunt Jemima was a slave image..you know, the happy smiling slave?



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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

Good luck, contacting ebay is nearly impossible and they designed it like this.  I just truely it was different cuz I need this income but ebay is wearing me thin. 

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

Just for some history on black items in general from the 1960s through the 70s.  There were many complaints made against department stores. The complaint was made that African American children didn't have enough role models, children didn't have African American dolls to play with just straight hair figurines. There were many variations to this as it went into the culture that included shows that aired on t.v. and radio and sports participation. Now some sixty years later (online) department stores don't want to carry the same inventory they made millions from. They call this "progress" or "discriminatory."

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

@house*of*paws ,

Instead of Elon, if it is such a good idea why don’t you start it? You can get funding by getting on the Shark Tank, or start Kickstarter campaign.

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

This is what’s wrong these days no matter what opinion you have the ones that don’t agree with you label you as woke and etc. 

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

Sorry I would never eat Fido.

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

It is because your listing was noticed by eBay. Possibility someone complained to eBay and it was removed because some people found it offensive. The other listings probably weren't noticed. I suggest that you don't list it again. Maybe you could sell it to a friend or relative.

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

Often these posts are removed by artificial intelligence searching for issues and it is not even an issue of being reported by an actual person.  I have had this happen on ebay and Facebook marketplace. Sometimes it is how you word something and how their computers pick up this wording. I had a mini bottle removed I think because in the description I said made in Cuba( the bottle was pre Castro) where similar listings remain because only the word Cuba is in the listing and not the phrase “made in Cuba”


@fac9876 wrote:

OK.  Why did eBay remove my post - and not others? 


 

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

Find somewhere else to sell the items.  Do not relist, because it's not worth risking the permanent suspension of your selling account.

 

eBay's "Offensive Materials" policy is vague and subjective, full of eraser language, and it is then monitored by primitive AI.   So you have fuzzy and ambiguous policy that is randomly and capriciously enforced.

 

And that is also the case in all the other restricted categories, so no one is safe.  Some people have had unlikely and quite innocent things pulled by the eBay bots;  some people have successfully listed and sold items that any decent human would find egregious.  That's what happens in a marketplace with about 20M sellers and about 1.5B listings.

 

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I had my Black Americana valentine and minstrel show program removed, but others are still on there

 


@theteamsetguy wrote:

@house*of*paws ,

Instead of Elon, if it is such a good idea why don’t you start it? You can get funding by getting on the Shark Tank, or start Kickstarter campaign.


@theteamsetguy 

Thanks for the suggestion … but career counseling AND experience have both taught me that my talents and temperament are totally incompatible with ‘business’.  LOL

 

And considering that Elon’s lost more money last year than anyone else in history … that might also apply to him.  😉

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