02-18-2023 04:17 AM - edited 02-18-2023 04:22 AM
I'm using HRBlock online tax forms. And here's what I don't understand.
Step 1. I choose sell of personal items (Explained as a garage sale, selling somethinc via online marketplace)
Step 2. Enter the amount under 1A
Step 3. (this is what I don't understand) Let's make a list of everything you sold. Description, item, Length of ownership.
WTH?
I never had to do this. Do I have to list everything on my spreadsheet? When did this happen.
Comment: This is ridiculous and will run away a lot of "smaller" sellers, or cause the IRS to audit taxes.
02-18-2023 05:49 AM
The option you chose is for the occasional seller on ebay, You should choose the option
as business. Consult a tax professional.
02-18-2023 05:56 AM
@liawrig.nq8rdwqa3 wrote:Comment: This is ridiculous and will run away a lot of "smaller" sellers, or cause the IRS to audit taxes.
IMHO very few sellers are going to run away simply because of the choice you made on the HRBlock online tax form.
I have used the schedule C for years and I do not have to itemize everything I sold.
02-18-2023 05:56 AM
I used HRBlock online to do my taxes and don't recall being asked to submit a list of everything I sold. My activity was Direct Selling and it walked me through entering the gross receipts and the expenses. Since I do not recognize "inventory" I did not have cost of goods sold and instead listed the purchase price of the items I bought for resale under supplies.
Now, if I were ever asked to prove the numbers I keep my books in Excel and can tell you, in detail, everything that sold along with the associated fees and cost of the item. I have a paper file with all of the purchase receipts or a scratch pad note if it was purchased at a yard sale.
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02-18-2023 05:57 AM
I can't afford a tax professional. They charge hundreds of dollars.
02-18-2023 06:13 AM
Pay a professional "hundreds of dollars" or owe the IRS and your state taxing authority thousands of dollars if you make an egregious error- your choice. HRBlock online offers line-by-line support as well as virtual and live assistance so I'm not sure what kind of rabbit hole you've went down.
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02-18-2023 06:13 AM
as others have said there is more than one way to do this
one method is the simple cash aggregate method or easy method
that is what I use. H&R block does my taxes every year and its only abut $700.
my tax guy is the senior tax man and a small business specialist
you take your purchases and your sales and figure out what you sold
you also figure out your inventory at year end
your inventory now is 118 items
if you had 1000 pieces of unsold inventory then that is considered profit if its been purchased and deducted two years ago .
its best for me if my inventory stays the same
schedule C s no big mystery at all
I deduct the same things every single year.
I am happy to say I have been paying my self employment taxes for the last 22 years
this will help me immensley when I start to collect social security
I used to do my taxes myself for years but stopped due to too many mutual fund reports
schedule C is easy to do.
I also use the ACA or obamacare and all those subsidies/ payments have to be added line by line
I admire the ebayers who do it themselves
02-18-2023 06:14 AM
The advice provided by the IRS themselves is considerably more streamlined than Block's:
Q3. Is the gain or loss on the sale of a personal item used to compute my taxable income? Is that reported on a Form 1099-K? (added December 28, 2022)
A3. Gain or loss on the sale of a personal item is generally the difference between the amount you paid for the item (the purchase price) and the amount you receive when you sell it (the sales price).
For example, if you bought a refrigerator for $1,000 (the purchase price) and sold it for $600 (the sales price), you have a loss of $400. $600 sales price - $1,000 purchase price = ($400) loss amount.
On the other hand, if you bought concert tickets for $500 (the purchase price) and sold them for $900 (the sales price), you have a gain of $400. $900 sales price - $500 purchase price = $400 gain amount.
For calendar year 2022 tax returns, if you receive a Form 1099- K, for the sale of a personal item that resulted in a loss, you should make offsetting entries on Form 1040, U.S. Individual Income Tax Return, Schedule 1, Additional Income and Adjustments to Income, as follows:
Report your proceeds (the Form 1099-K amount) on Part I – Line 8z – Other Income, using the description "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss."
Report your costs, up to but not more than the proceeds amount (the Form 1099-K amount), on Part II – Line 24z – Other Adjustments, using the description "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss."
https://www.irs.gov/pub/taxpros/fs-2022-41.pdf
In other words, if everything you sold was sold at a loss (as in a garage sale), you enter the total from your 1099-K on line 8z and then enter that same amount on line 24z for a net of zero for taxable income. No listing needed, if you're sure everything was sold at a loss. I have always used TurboTx and find them very user-friendly, I'd never think about using HRBlock.
02-18-2023 06:21 AM - edited 02-18-2023 06:21 AM
@1tuna wrote:H&R block does my taxes every year and its only abut $700.
my tax guy is the senior tax man and a small business specialist
you take your purchases and your sales and figure out what you sold
you also figure out your inventory at year end
I treat my inventory as non-incidental material or supplies under publication 334 and save myself the headache of having to track my inventory or do beginning and ending inventory. I value my time!
02-18-2023 06:29 AM
H&R Block sure does...they are "tax hustlers". find a local CPA not with a puppy mill firm. A simple form with a schedule C should not be more than $150...maybe less. This cost is tax deductible next year and worth every penny. They might even save you money. They know every "loophole"....
02-18-2023 03:12 PM
I don't think you guys understand. EB and AMZ sends a 1099K, not a Schedule C. I don't know what you guys are talking about with Schedule C.
02-18-2023 03:18 PM
Schedule C is the IRS form on which one reports the information........
Check and see if a library near you has free tax prep.........
02-18-2023 03:22 PM
@liawrig.nq8rdwqa3 wrote:I don't think you guys understand. EB and AMZ sends a 1099K, not a Schedule C. I don't know what you guys are talking about with Schedule C.
Which is exactly why this is not the place to seek tax advice.
02-18-2023 03:29 PM - edited 02-18-2023 03:30 PM
@liawrig.nq8rdwqa3 wrote:I don't think you guys understand. EB and AMZ sends a 1099K, not a Schedule C. I don't know what you guys are talking about with Schedule C.
If you make a profit then the IRS considers you to be a business and you report your income and expenses on Schedule C, which you would fill out and attach to your 1040. If you look up Schedule C on the IRS site, the instructions give a lot of information about how the IRS looks at these things.
If you do not make a profit, then the IRS considers your eBay sales to be a hobby, and you should follow the "garage sale" instructions FAQ that I quoted and linked above.
02-18-2023 03:37 PM - edited 02-18-2023 03:38 PM
A 1099 is like a wage-earner's W-2 in that it's an annual recap of your earnings. You use the 1099 (or W-2) to prepare your tax form, the 1040. The Schedule C is a sub-form of the 1040 and is used to report a sole proprietors business income and expenses. Since you are confused with the basics of tax preparation you really should seek out a professional preparer for this year, at least. Like @dhbookds suggested, your local library may offer sources for free tax preparation.
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