12-11-2024 11:15 AM - edited 12-11-2024 12:21 PM
12-11-2024 12:03 PM
It's not uncommon for a seller to have to cancel an order because the item is damaged or otherwise unavailable
Then a seller may not be on ebay very long.............ebay views canceling sales because the seller can't fulfill the sale as the ultimate transgression.
12-11-2024 12:05 PM
I recently received the first negative feedback in years when a buyer was upset because eBay did not transfer his refund money quick enough.
According to the feedback, the buyer was also upset because you took three days to admit admit you could not find the item and had to refund the buyer.
This season has been a disaster and eBay is at fault.
According to the buyer's feedback, you are at fault because you failed to fulfill an order and had to refund it.
According to the feedback, you did not tell us the whole story. According to the feedback, the root cause of your issue was your failure to deliver the item you promised.
12-11-2024 12:10 PM
@bisbeeminerals wrote:It's not uncommon for a seller to have to cancel an order because the item is damaged or otherwise unavailable.
II guess that depends upon your definition of "not uncommon".
If a seller does this more than 2% of the time, he is generally put Below Standard and on the verge of being kicked off the site.
12-11-2024 12:10 PM - edited 12-11-2024 12:15 PM
Thanks for the replies. Good conversation. Just to clarify, the buyer is not always "correct" or "right." That is a false business principle. For example, if I claim a supermarket is selling rotten food and they are not, I'm subject to slander. Most sellers are aware that feedback is often used to punish sellers when there is no justification, or the punishment is to lower a seller's score to levels that a LOT of buyer's will notice and avoid.
If I feel like an ass clown later today decided to leave someone negative feedback because I'm having a bad day, that would not justify the outcome of being allowed to harm someone's account. Nor is eBay justified in allowing damage to occur to a seller's account when they are at fault for the complaint, either wholly or partially. They have to take responsibility because it's their show. The individual in this case was very upset over the refund being processed by eBay secondary to the item not being in stock.
I only used my situation as an example, and the conversation was intended to cover the entire spectrum of eBay's corrupt feedback system in general.
Like I noted, the good news is that I'm no longer listing new items on eBay and my sales on other platforms are skyrocketing.
Have a good holiday everyone, thanks again for the comments.
12-11-2024 12:12 PM
@luckythewinner wrote:I recently received the first negative feedback in years when a buyer was upset because eBay did not transfer his refund money quick enough.
According to the feedback, the buyer was also upset because you took three days to admit admit you could not find the item and had to refund the buyer.
This season has been a disaster and eBay is at fault.
According to the buyer's feedback, you are at fault because you failed to fulfill an order and had to refund it.
According to the feedback, you did not tell us the whole story. According to the feedback, the root cause of your issue was your failure to deliver the item you promised.
This sums it up perfectly. ☝️ Good post.
The OP shows no remorse and will likely be down this road again in the near future.
12-11-2024 12:23 PM - edited 12-11-2024 12:25 PM
I gave up posting here because people were being rude and unprofessional. This forum is worthless and filled with hate. People cannot stay on topic.
12-11-2024 12:23 PM
@bisbeeminerals wrote:It's not uncommon for a seller to have to cancel an order because the item is damaged or otherwise unavailable.
It should be extremely uncommon to cancel for such reasons, actually. The fact that you think it's common is a problem, and a major one at that. I suspect online selling is not for you.
12-11-2024 12:27 PM
@bisbeeminerals wrote:... It's not uncommon for a seller to have to cancel an order because the item is damaged or otherwise unavailable. The seller made it clear that they were upset with the processing of the refund by eBay. Regardless, this does not justify a negative feedback.
Unlike the negative feedback, this type of cancellation is held against a seller. I have one defect right now on my record for a year due to this. Hopefully this is not a common occurrence for you. As others have pointed out, the response is the important part and it's never a good look to blame a buyer for something caused by your mistake. (I think you are mixing up seller/buyer in many of your posts which may be confusing some that read this thread).
Right after I got my defect, I sensed my sales slumped. Maybe that is what is hurting you right now.
12-11-2024 12:34 PM
@bisbeeminerals wrote:I gave up posting here because people were being rude and unprofessional. This forum is worthless and filled with hate. People cannot stay on topic.
There can be two truths...
1. Truth - The obvious truth that the feedback system needs to be replaced/updated.
2. Truth - Yes you screwed up not fulfilling your sales obligation and the late refund was what upset the buyer to leave you negative feedback. Do you think if you sent them the product, they would have left you negative feedback? You are the only one making it personal by not taking any responsibility for your actions. Sorry.
Somehow you claim that both cannot be related when the feedback left (buyer) tells a different story.
12-11-2024 02:12 PM
@bisbeeminerals wrote:I gave up posting here because people were being rude and unprofessional. This forum is worthless and filled with hate. People cannot stay on topic.
Actually, being honest and offering constructive criticism on this topic is far from being rude and unprofessional, but obviously not everyone is open to this even though it can be very helpful. I learned a long time ago that everything I'm unhappy about isn't always something I can blame on others.
12-11-2024 05:10 PM - edited 12-11-2024 05:11 PM
So, the OP changes the title and changes the original post?
12-11-2024 06:19 PM
@dhbookds wrote:So, the OP changes the title and changes the original post?
Okay @dhbookds
So here we are, a number of us like @bisbeeminerals , @fern*wood , @chevymontecarlo88 , @brightlightbookseller
have all commented on the original post which has since been changed to ... Happy Holidays ... what;s wrong with this picture?