Fall Update

[fern*wood]

http://www.ebay.com/sellerupdate

[myboardid]

The key word here is DUPLICATE - if the non-promoted listings are not DUPLICATES, they will not be removed. 

[upgradedendmills]

I believe you are misreading the provision. Should be clarified very soon.

[warbuyer99]

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@flyingmvp wrote:
"Removal of duplicate promoted and non-promoted listings in search "

non-promoted listings will be removed!
Looks like the "Promoted Listings" became officially, mandatory,
you can call it a new fee.

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If you use promoted listings you will get two listings when someone searches your item. The update will make it so only your regular listing or your promoted listing will show in the search results. It does not state non-promoted listings will be removed....

[something_fantastic]

I think some people subconsciously skip over listings labeled as promoted. Before it didn't matter because we would have our normal listing where would naturally rank as well. But now our natural listing won't be there and so if somebody has a tendency to visually skip over anything labeled as promoted it will actually hurt us to pay for promoted.

[warbuyer99]

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@upgradedendmills wrote:

I believe you are misreading the provision. Should be clarified very soon.

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Misreading or failing to read all of it? 🙂

[fern*wood]

I've always found those duplicates annoying when I search for an item, so this is an improvement.  I can guess, though, which listing will be chosen for removal since the fees are only charged if the purchase is from the promoted listing. 

The statement about which will be shown stumps me since the listings are identical, other than the ad rate on the promoted one.

[ersatz_sobriquet]

I purposely won't buy promoted listings. I never have used one for my listings. Call it my quiet way of rebelling, and not caring for sellers who buy into the program. 

[something_fantastic]

They are not Identical. The promoted listings clearly say "Sponsored" at the top.

I can see how this can cause buyers to skip over your listing. I know in the past I tended to ignore any listings I saw that was sponsored (before I learned more about the program).

[njrtsr]

The worst part of the update is that they're these aren't the real changes that will affect us.

With this update ebay is changing their decade+ long precedent that selling policy will only be updated during the seasonal updates. They have undid that and are now saying they will update selling policy anytime they want, and the first policy change will happen on Oct 1st. This can include fee changes, store updates, and anything else that sellers are fearing! 

This is only an update on what's changing with the webpage and its interface. The updates that we're concerned about (fee increases and the like) can now happen any time, starting October 1st. We're not out of the woods yet!

[bigdeals.etc]

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@something_fantastic wrote:

They are not Identical. The promoted listings clearly say "Sponsored" at the top.

I can see how this can cause buyers to skip over your listing. I know in the past I tended to ignore any listings I saw that was sponsored (before I learned more about the program).

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Yea, and I understand why buyers will skip thru these "Sponsored" Listings. I even skip the "Ad" results in Google searches.

If ebay is going to remove the original listing when it is being promoted in search results... the least they can do is make the listing look no different than any other listing (and still give the promoted listing exposure). In other words... remove that darn "Sponsored" tag on these promoted listings.

[classic_luxe]

The "enhanced protections" that they are providing for Top Rated Sellers only, should be extended to ALL sellers on their platform but that would be too fair I guess?

[fern*wood]

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@something_fantastic wrote:

They are not Identical. The promoted listings clearly say "Sponsored" at the top.

I can see how this can cause buyers to skip over your listing. I know in the past I tended to ignore any listings I saw that was sponsored (before I learned more about the program).

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You are joking I guess.  Yes, I know one says sponsored when you search, but I'm talking about the listing itself--that a seller creates.  

[myboardid]

I also skip over sponsored listings because they are almost always higher priced than other sellers' listings and I am searching by lowest price first. 

[gracieallen01]

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@warbuyer99 wrote:

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@upgradedendmills wrote:

I believe you are misreading the provision. Should be clarified very soon.

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Misreading or failing to read all of it? 🙂

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Respectfully speaking, the part I find interesting is where they specifically include 'ad rate' as a deciding factor on which ones they will they select to display.  It might, almost, leave one thinking that with a higher ad rate, the more likely the promoted item will be included in search.

[westmichiganpropeller]

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@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:

I purposely won't buy promoted listings. I never have used one for my listings. Call it my quiet way of rebelling, and not caring for sellers who buy into the program. 

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they appear to work though.  i put almost all of my stuff on promoted listings this year with a 1% fee.  at its peak sales were up 70% over last year while the market was down -10%+. currently sitting at +51.7%/-10%+.

do i like that i apparently have to do it?  no.  do i like the massive boost in sales (and money in my pocket)? yes, yes i do.