@jpaul18535 wrote:
I think there are a lot of emotional responses here.
I was in the initial beta for managed payments. My sales have actually gone up. I believe ebay is promoting me, just my guess. I haven't done anything different than I have over the years.
As for Ebay eliminating Paypal, where or when has Ebay stated this? They initially are not accepting PayPal so buyers be foreced to use the new payment system. Once the "bugs" are worked out, aniticipated summer of 2019, PayPal will be reintroduced.
Everyone who is boycotting sellers who do not accept Paypal, you are hurting the sellers more than ebay.
Saying all that, I have lost about 4 to 5 sales due to people saying they need or have to pay using paypal.
Also, is everyone here who is "mad" at ebay also boycotting Amazon? Amazon does not take PayPal. Maybe all of you have never shopped on Amazon because they never took PayPal?
@jpaul18535
The reason that people are so upset with Ebay about this change is that Ebay for years now has done all it could to say that Paypal was the only safe way to make your payments online, mainly because they owned them and wanted the extra money. Now they are going to be doing their own processing using Adyen so they can once again pocket all that money that they had when they owned Paypal and are now trying to undo all those years of insisting that Paypal is the only safe way to pay online.
I will be truthful, I will not make a purchase from a Seller who is in Managed Payments at this time because they cannot accept Paypal, which was truthfully a decision made by Ebay many years ago because they have had 3 years to prepare for this change and admitted they are not ready with the technology to process Paypal. But its funny how they suddenly added Apple Pay and were able to work that into their payment options very quickly.
This is strictly a test to see how much control they can exert over buyers to force them into not using Paypal and try and get them used to not doing so. If this is extremely successful I would not be surprised to see an announcement next Summer that Ebay will not be accepting Paypal through managed payments for some reason or another although I am sure their contract with Paypal has something in there that will penalize them for not meeting certain percentages of buyers using Paypal during each year that this transition is happening, in fact i am sure I saw something about that in an article on it. It will all come down to what is most profitable for Ebay as that is what this change is all about.
As for not wanting to give Ebay their credit card information, I am one that also will not be willing to do so as I just do not trust that Ebay will not somehow change their UA to say that doing so allows them to save your credit card information for future use (rather than having a box to click for that) or having that box automatically checked and if you are not careful and uncheck it, again Ebay will be keeping your credit card information. I do not trust that Ebays security is even close to as good as Paypals was, nor Amazons is. Paypal, even when they were a subsidiary of Ebay, had completely different policies and guidelines they were required to follow by the banking industry, Visa, Mastercard and Amex as well as governmental oversights that Ebay has never had to deal with. I am also not sure based on what i have seen of their programmers lately, that Ebay has the abilities to protect the credit card information that they will wind up storing, nor do I trust, based on their recent history, that Ebay would notify the public that they had been hacked and customers information was compromised. That is not an issue that the public has with the other company that you mentioned earlier. Ebay has to earn back that trust of being transparent and when they continue to not announce issues that are occuring which other Sites are bringing to everybody's attention it is hard to bridge that gap.
I hope this gives you some insight as to what buyers are feeling about this issue. I am also a Seller on Ebay and am not looking forward to the change to Managed Payments because I do understand the financial ramifications of these changes will mean for sellers as well, as I have a lot of background in the CC industry and do not feel that Ebay will have sellers backs at all when it comes to chargebacks or disputes with their buyers. Right now Paypal is at least a 3rd party that looks at things and will help fight chargebacks from buyers that should not be allowed. But I am not sure that Ebay will do anything other than collect the $20 (or whatever number they come up with) fee from the Seller for the Chargeback as that is additional revenue in their pockets and will help them show the growth they are so desperate to try and show. Even though that revenue should not be classified as Sales growth, I would bet my last $20 that it will wind up being that way.
