eBay

crabt_378 · ‎07-08-2025

Ebay is clearly allowing the selling of merchandise that breaks their own rules of exploiting tragedies (human and animal), as well as promoting violence. Just search for "aligator" and how many "Aligator Alcatraz" items show up?? Disgusting.

What's next?

Holocaust exploitation

Nazi gear

Cruel and unusual punishment is still prohibited under the 8th amendment in the Constitution.

gone.c-33 · ‎07-12-2025

People being picked up at their job or immigration hearings are the worst of the worst?

Like I said, the KL were in operation for years and were touted as a place for the worst of the worst criminals, including undocumented immigrants.

People aren’t dying in droves, and I hope I’m wrong but I say give it time. Believing all undocumented people in the US in 2025 are hardened criminals is the equivalent of believing Jewish people were the reason Germany was doing so bad in 1936.

gurlcat · ‎07-12-2025

It might help if you clarify what the "KL" is. -I for one have no idea, ha.

gurlcat · ‎07-12-2025

@f_5925 wrote:
Where is your credible proof of illegals in Alligator Alcatraz being starved, murdered in gas chambers, shot by firing squads, medically experimented on, or incinerated in ovens?

One of the biggest causes of death in any concentration camp (or regular prison for that matter) has been lack of medical attention for individuals' chronic conditions, injuries, and communicable diseases acquired during incarceration. So if such deaths ever start getting reported at this facility, how much would it take to be unacceptable to you? I'm asking for a number of deaths per time period.

mainecatdaddy · ‎07-12-2025

It's a jail.

f_5925 · ‎07-12-2025

No one said detainees were giving interviews to reporters. They are talking to family members or legal representatives, etc.

Biden didn't secure the border as he should have? It WAS relatively secure when he took office, and he opened it up to millions upon millions of people coming in from all over the world. That includes thousands of military-aged men from China, our adversary, and other foreign nationals who hate our country. This mess was created by Biden and the current administration is cleaning it up.

Yes, Trump has once again secured the border. Now the mission is to remove as many of the millions as possible who have entered here illegally. It doesn't matter if the "vast majority" are not criminals, many of those millions are and they've done irreparable harm to American families, many of whom have been permanently separated from their loved ones as a result. Illegals have put a strain on our hospitals, our schools, our housing, our roads, our quality of life, etc.

Trump ran on securing the border and deporting illegals. He won the popular vote, the swing states, and the electoral college, and he is keeping his campaign promise. I suspect no matter how he accomplishes that, you and others would take issue with "how it is currently being handled." I guess you'd prefer they be put up in five-star hotels again while American veterans remain homeless on the streets.

f_5925 · ‎07-12-2025

You think if an illegal has a job that means they aren't a criminal? The two monsters who killed little Jocelyn Nungarary were working in construction. You are quite naive.

You seem to keep thinking this is or could be a repeat of the Nazi regime. Perhaps you watch too much CNN or mainstream media. In case you aren't aware, they are extremely biased in their coverage and don't give both sides of the issue, and in many cases it's the bias of omission. Most are activists now, and not journalists.

f_5925 · ‎07-12-2025

@gurlcat wrote:
@f_5925 wrote:
Where is your credible proof of illegals in Alligator Alcatraz being starved, murdered in gas chambers, shot by firing squads, medically experimented on, or incinerated in ovens?

One of the biggest causes of death in any concentration camp (or regular prison for that matter) has been lack of medical attention for individuals' chronic conditions, injuries, and communicable diseases acquired during incarceration. So if such deaths ever start getting reported at this facility, how much would it take to be unacceptable to you? I'm asking for a number of deaths per time period.

This facility should be held to the same standards as any other detention center, no matter who the detainees are. As far as concentration camps go, we don't have them in America despite so many people wanting to portray detention facilities that way.

itsjustasprain · ‎07-12-2025

@f_5925 wrote:
It doesn't matter if the "vast majority" are not criminals,

Of course it does. Raiding workplaces is the lazy law-enforcement equivalent of low-hanging fruit (especially ironic when they are raiding California fruit farms).

If you read a bit more about the Jocelyn Nungarary case you will learn that the two suspects had already been picked up on immigration charges by the Border Patrol but were released pending future court action. The murder occurred later on. They were identified by a roommate after their images appeared on surveillance video and were circulated to the media.

selsa84 · ‎07-12-2025

I saw em when I searched for "dehydrated alligator gumbo". But there is no and I repeat no dehydrated alligator gumbo for sale. This is disappointing.

f_5925 · ‎07-12-2025

@itsjustasprain wrote:
@f_5925 wrote:
It doesn't matter if the "vast majority" are not criminals,
Of course it does. Raiding workplaces is the lazy law-enforcement equivalent of low-hanging fruit (especially ironic when they are raiding California fruit farms).

If you read a bit more about the Jocelyn Nungarary case you will learn that the two suspects had already been picked up on immigration charges by the Border Patrol but were released pending future court action. The murder occurred later on. They were identified by a roommate after their images appeared on surveillance video and were circulated to the media.

If those two had not been let into the United States to begin with, and if they had been deported by Border Patrol when they were picked up, Jocelyn Nungaray wouldn't have been brutally murdered. The difference is that was under Biden and things are different under Trump, thankfully. As to the original point, they had jobs and they were working.

Besides capturing illegals who shouldn't be here, your so-called low-hanging fruit most likely revealed child exploitation/trafficking. Seems like a worthwhile endeavor unless you prefer child abuse.

Do you consider marijuana a fruit?

kensgiftshop · ‎07-12-2025

@itsjustasprain wrote:
@f_5925 wrote:
It doesn't matter if the "vast majority" are not criminals,
Of course it does. Raiding workplaces is the lazy law-enforcement equivalent of low-hanging fruit (especially ironic when they are raiding California fruit farms).

If you read a bit more about the Jocelyn Nungarary case you will learn that the two suspects had already been picked up on immigration charges by the Border Patrol but were released pending future court action. The murder occurred later on. They were identified by a roommate after their images appeared on surveillance video and were circulated to the media.

Those fruit farms should be fined for each illegal they hire.

If those two were not released, the little girl would still be alive.

They should have been held until deported.

Have A Great Day.

gone.c-33 · ‎07-12-2025

There’s an entire world of media outside the big names in the US. I haven’t watched CNN since the first time Obama won the presidency.

Despite what you seem to believe, immigrants, documented or not, are much less likely to be violent offenders (murder, **bleep**, robbery). So picking an outlier event to prove your point shows bad faith.

There have been concentration camps in the US before, there’s no reason to believe there couldn’t be more in the future. And it’s very easy to find common events in the rise of the NSDAP and the current administration.

itsjustasprain · ‎07-12-2025

@f_5925 wrote:
If those two had not been let into the United States to begin with, and if they had been deported by Border Patrol when they were picked up, Jocelyn Nungaray wouldn't have been brutally murdered. The difference is that was under Biden and things are different under Trump, thankfully. As to the original point, they had jobs and they were working.

It would have been great if they had been deported when originally picked up but they were released before their court dates with an order to appear. Due process is what that is called. The murder occurred after that. You could have used that as a line of argument much earlier but I suspect you did not know that much about the case until it was explained to you.

Both did indeed have jobs and were working but not at the time of the murder. It is kind of ironic that if they had been picked up after the murder in one of those stupid workplace raids then it is very possible that they might have been deported without anyone ever solving the murder (remember that it was a manager of that company who turned them in). It would be better to have them convicted and in jail for that crime than to escape by simply being deported and free to roam.

@f_5925 wrote:
Besides capturing illegals who shouldn't be here, your so-called low-hanging fruit most likely revealed child exploitation/trafficking. Seems like a worthwhile endeavor unless you prefer child abuse.

'Most likely' means you have not read anything about the makeup of the workers who are being scooped up wholesale and you are hoping that I have not either. There was a small percentage found to be underage but as you know that was not the purpose of the raids. I would encourage you to get out of your comfort zone and learn more about the claims that you are attempting to make here.

@f_5925 wrote:
Do you consider marijuana a fruit?

I assume that you are referring to the two most recent raids in which protestors fought back and which occurred on cannabis farms. You should understand that cannabis is legal in California and thus irrelevant to the raid. Farms of all kinds growing all kinds of products have been similarly targeted because of the workers there and not because of the actual product at that location.

f_5925 · ‎07-12-2025

@itsjustasprain wrote:
@f_5925 wrote:
If those two had not been let into the United States to begin with, and if they had been deported by Border Patrol when they were picked up, Jocelyn Nungaray wouldn't have been brutally murdered. The difference is that was under Biden and things are different under Trump, thankfully. As to the original point, they had jobs and they were working.
It would have been great if they had been deported when originally picked up but they were released before their court dates with an order to appear. Due process is what that is called. The murder occurred after that. You could have used that as a line of argument much earlier but I suspect you did not know that much about the case until it was explained to you.

Both did indeed have jobs and were working but not at the time of the murder. It is kind of ironic that if they had been picked up after the murder in one of those stupid workplace raids then it is very possible that they might have been deported without anyone ever solving the murder (remember that it was a manager of that company who turned them in). It would be better to have them convicted and in jail for that crime than to escape by simply being deported and free to roam.

@f_5925 wrote:
Besides capturing illegals who shouldn't be here, your so-called low-hanging fruit most likely revealed child exploitation/trafficking. Seems like a worthwhile endeavor unless you prefer child abuse.
'Most likely' means you have not read anything about the makeup of the workers who are being scooped up wholesale and you are hoping that I have not either. There was a small percentage found to be underage but as you know that was not the purpose of the raids. I would encourage you to get out of your comfort zone and learn more about the claims that you are attempting to make here.

@f_5925 wrote:
Do you consider marijuana a fruit?
I assume that you are referring to the two most recent raids in which protestors fought back and which occurred on cannabis farms. You should understand that cannabis is legal in California and thus irrelevant to the raid. Farms of all kinds growing all kinds of products have been similarly targeted because of the workers there and not because of the actual product at that location.

It would have been great if they had been deported when originally picked up but they were released before their court dates with an order to appear. Due process is what that is called. The murder occurred after that. You could have used that as a line of argument much earlier but I suspect you did not know that much about the case until it was explained to you.

No one had to explain the case to me - maybe they do to you - but if Biden didn't have the "catch-and-release" in place for the millions who crossed, those two most likely would have been turned around at the border and not been given a court date to appear (likely years in the future, which means how many more like them are still here?) The concept of "due process" years into the future under the last administration's open border policy is ludicrous.

Both did indeed have jobs and were working but not at the time of the murder. It is kind of ironic that if they had been picked up after the murder in one of those stupid workplace raids then it is very possible that they might have been deported without anyone ever solving the murder (remember that it was a manager of that company who turned them in).

It is reported they were employed at the time of the murder and they asked their boss for money to leave the state. The boss at the construction company refused.

If they weren't here in the first place, Jocelyn Nungaray would still be alive instead of being brutally murdered by those two. Unfortunately more innocent Americans will continue to die while people like you advocate for criminals.

I assume that you are referring to the two most recent raids in which protestors fought back and which occurred on cannabis farms.

They weren't "protestors," they were rioters and they were breaking the law by throwing rocks, etc., and also one appeared to have fired a gun at law enforcement. They have a right to protest; they don't have a right to riot and interfere with law enforcement.