07-08-2025 02:31 PM
Ebay is clearly allowing the selling of merchandise that breaks their own rules of exploiting tragedies (human and animal), as well as promoting violence. Just search for "aligator" and how many "Aligator Alcatraz" items show up?? Disgusting.
What's next?
Holocaust exploitation
Nazi gear
Cruel and unusual punishment is still prohibited under the 8th amendment in the Constitution.
07-12-2025 01:50 PM
People being picked up at their job or immigration hearings are the worst of the worst?
Like I said, the KL were in operation for years and were touted as a place for the worst of the worst criminals, including undocumented immigrants.
People aren’t dying in droves, and I hope I’m wrong but I say give it time. Believing all undocumented people in the US in 2025 are hardened criminals is the equivalent of believing Jewish people were the reason Germany was doing so bad in 1936.
07-12-2025 03:04 PM
It might help if you clarify what the "KL" is. -I for one have no idea, ha.
07-12-2025 03:22 PM
@f_5925 wrote:Where is your credible proof of illegals in Alligator Alcatraz being starved, murdered in gas chambers, shot by firing squads, medically experimented on, or incinerated in ovens?
One of the biggest causes of death in any concentration camp (or regular prison for that matter) has been lack of medical attention for individuals' chronic conditions, injuries, and communicable diseases acquired during incarceration. So if such deaths ever start getting reported at this facility, how much would it take to be unacceptable to you? I'm asking for a number of deaths per time period.
07-12-2025 04:16 PM
It's a jail.
07-12-2025 05:14 PM
No one said detainees were giving interviews to reporters. They are talking to family members or legal representatives, etc.
Biden didn't secure the border as he should have? It WAS relatively secure when he took office, and he opened it up to millions upon millions of people coming in from all over the world. That includes thousands of military-aged men from China, our adversary, and other foreign nationals who hate our country. This mess was created by Biden and the current administration is cleaning it up.
Yes, Trump has once again secured the border. Now the mission is to remove as many of the millions as possible who have entered here illegally. It doesn't matter if the "vast majority" are not criminals, many of those millions are and they've done irreparable harm to American families, many of whom have been permanently separated from their loved ones as a result. Illegals have put a strain on our hospitals, our schools, our housing, our roads, our quality of life, etc.
Trump ran on securing the border and deporting illegals. He won the popular vote, the swing states, and the electoral college, and he is keeping his campaign promise. I suspect no matter how he accomplishes that, you and others would take issue with "how it is currently being handled." I guess you'd prefer they be put up in five-star hotels again while American veterans remain homeless on the streets.
07-12-2025 05:32 PM
You think if an illegal has a job that means they aren't a criminal? The two monsters who killed little Jocelyn Nungarary were working in construction. You are quite naive.
You seem to keep thinking this is or could be a repeat of the Nazi regime. Perhaps you watch too much CNN or mainstream media. In case you aren't aware, they are extremely biased in their coverage and don't give both sides of the issue, and in many cases it's the bias of omission. Most are activists now, and not journalists.
07-12-2025 05:36 PM
@gurlcat wrote:
@f_5925 wrote:Where is your credible proof of illegals in Alligator Alcatraz being starved, murdered in gas chambers, shot by firing squads, medically experimented on, or incinerated in ovens?
One of the biggest causes of death in any concentration camp (or regular prison for that matter) has been lack of medical attention for individuals' chronic conditions, injuries, and communicable diseases acquired during incarceration. So if such deaths ever start getting reported at this facility, how much would it take to be unacceptable to you? I'm asking for a number of deaths per time period.
This facility should be held to the same standards as any other detention center, no matter who the detainees are. As far as concentration camps go, we don't have them in America despite so many people wanting to portray detention facilities that way.
07-12-2025 05:57 PM - edited 07-12-2025 05:57 PM
@f_5925 wrote:It doesn't matter if the "vast majority" are not criminals,
Of course it does. Raiding workplaces is the lazy law-enforcement equivalent of low-hanging fruit (especially ironic when they are raiding California fruit farms).
If you read a bit more about the Jocelyn Nungarary case you will learn that the two suspects had already been picked up on immigration charges by the Border Patrol but were released pending future court action. The murder occurred later on. They were identified by a roommate after their images appeared on surveillance video and were circulated to the media.
07-12-2025 05:59 PM
I saw em when I searched for "dehydrated alligator gumbo". But there is no and I repeat no dehydrated alligator gumbo for sale. This is disappointing.
07-12-2025 06:18 PM - edited 07-12-2025 06:20 PM
@itsjustasprain wrote:
@f_5925 wrote:It doesn't matter if the "vast majority" are not criminals,
Of course it does. Raiding workplaces is the lazy law-enforcement equivalent of low-hanging fruit (especially ironic when they are raiding California fruit farms).
If you read a bit more about the Jocelyn Nungarary case you will learn that the two suspects had already been picked up on immigration charges by the Border Patrol but were released pending future court action. The murder occurred later on. They were identified by a roommate after their images appeared on surveillance video and were circulated to the media.
If those two had not been let into the United States to begin with, and if they had been deported by Border Patrol when they were picked up, Jocelyn Nungaray wouldn't have been brutally murdered. The difference is that was under Biden and things are different under Trump, thankfully. As to the original point, they had jobs and they were working.
Besides capturing illegals who shouldn't be here, your so-called low-hanging fruit most likely revealed child exploitation/trafficking. Seems like a worthwhile endeavor unless you prefer child abuse.
Do you consider marijuana a fruit?