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shar_27 · ‎09-06-2023

Do not ship! Repeat, do not ship any orders to this address:
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This is a scammer's lair serving low-brow alien online shopping looters.
They have developed a way to dodge any delivery scan.
Most of the packages sent to this address will not receive a delivery scan, which will increase the likelihood of refunds for non-delivery.

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I will not ship any orders to this address anymore and will block all buyers from this address.

robbie31415 · ‎09-06-2023

@wastingtime101

Sorry for always bugging you, forgot to tag you on my post but always like your input on shipping matters.

Can you provide some advise on this ?

itscalledapostingid · ‎09-06-2023

@shar_27

If it's USPS file a missing mail search on USPS website.

That will most likely result in it getting marked as delivered.

shar_27 · ‎09-06-2023

@itscalledapostingid wrote:
@shar_27
That will most likely result in it getting marked as delivered.

Thank you.

Been there, done that ... it's useless.

Sorry, but the fact is that most missing mail searches are ineffective.

I filed complaints many times; I even received phone calls from Washington, D.C., regarding reported mail scam cases.

Just so you know, I'm not saying this casually; I sent out almost 200 orders yesterday, although not all of them were eBay orders.

I am not a casual seller; I have massive data to back this up.

It's better to manage our own risk rather than holding high hopes from all these ecommerce platforms or authorities.

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dbfolks166mt · ‎09-06-2023

Thank you.

Been there, done that ... it's useless.

Sorry, but the fact is that most missing mail searches are ineffective.

I filed complaints many times; I even received phone calls from Washington, D.C., regarding reported mail scam cases.

Just so you know, I'm not saying this casually; I sent out almost 200 orders yesterday, although not all of them were eBay orders.

I am not a casual seller; I have massive data to back this up.

It's better to manage our own risk rather than holding high hopes from all these ecommerce platforms or authorities.

While the missing mail searches may not be effective in the case of an insurance claim with USPS for a lost package it's quite the opposite. With ground advantage now replacing first class and coming with insurance I have switched a lot of my default shipping from priority mail to ground advantage.

I have filed at least a dozen lost package claims with USPS over the years and I have always been fully refunded for each of those. The most recent one was in June and the claim was settled by USPS in 3 weeks and I had the check in hand.

If you feel there is some type of USPS involvement is a scamming activity in collaboration with the FF then contact the USPS IG and report it. It would not be the first case of such activity.

inhawaii · ‎09-06-2023

Thank you for that information.

I will take the "appropriate" action.

Zero To Sixty In Five - Pablo Cruise

cardxcraft · ‎09-06-2023

As Ebay has stated: unless the buyer admits in writing to using a freight forwarding service, Ebay's MBG applies throughout the shipment. Additional liability is taken on by the seller who wishes to ship domestic only. Although, the ff service address is domestic, practically speaking per Ebay's User Agreement, the seller is shipping international.

You're on this forum often, I'm surprised you're not aware of this.

Btw, what scammer is going to admit to using a freight forward service?

In the event of a return request, the cheap item tracking to the seller's zip code scam will be used.

yuzuha · ‎09-06-2023

@redmodelt wrote:
Delivery scans are done by the shipping service, not the receiver. If the items are not getting scanned, the shipping service is the one to blame.

Exactly. I'm not sure why OP is trying to blame the receiver here. If I were having an issue with packages being sent to a certain address not receiving delivery scans, I'd be on the phone with the local post office asking what was going on.

yuzuha · ‎09-06-2023

@lakefor94 wrote:
And of course, recently, FF's have been getting the old USPS, "delivered to agent for final delivery" scans that eBay did or still does not recognize as a delivery scan that forum member wastingtime was working for a long time. Sellers were having to go back in and appeal the INR's buyers were filing.

They do recognize it as a delivery scan now. I had one back in June that had "Delivered to agent for final delivery" as its last scan and eBay was showing it as counting as being delivered.

yuzuha · ‎09-06-2023

@dbfolks166mt wrote:
While the missing mail searches may not be effective in the case of an insurance claim with USPS for a lost package it's quite the opposite. With ground advantage now replacing first class and coming with insurance I have switched a lot of my default shipping from priority mail to ground advantage.

Meanwhile, I have never had a missing mail search NOT unearth the package in question and get it moving on its way again.

lakefor94 · ‎09-06-2023

@yuzuha wrote:
@lakefor94 wrote:
And of course, recently, FF's have been getting the old USPS, "delivered to agent for final delivery" scans that eBay did or still does not recognize as a delivery scan that forum member wastingtime was working for a long time. Sellers were having to go back in and appeal the INR's buyers were filing.
They do recognize it as a delivery scan now. I had one back in June that had "Delivered to agent for final delivery" as its last scan and eBay was showing it as counting as being delivered.

That is good to hear. I must have missed the memo here on the boards. Thanks for the update.

Can't believe it took them so look long to change that.

Posting ID

reallynicestamps · ‎09-06-2023

I went no further than Googling the address. That does look more reasonable than the WM. At a guess they are in the same strip mall.

reallynicestamps · ‎09-06-2023

This was originally published on eBayCanada. We don't often see freight forwarders there because Canadian sellers are more comfortable shipping internationally.

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy...

https://www.ebay.ca/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy?...

This is the part I'm referring to

Exclusions and special coverage when the buyer doesn't receive an item

 Items collected by a third party on behalf of the buyer
 Not covered
 The buyer arranged their own shipping method, such as a courier pickup
 Not covered
 The buyer provided an invalid or incorrect address at checkout
 Not covered

Now -- if the GSP is not involved, but the buyer uses a freight forwarder, does the seller provide Return Shipping from the forwarding address or from the buyer's address?
Oooh this is a good clarification question ..!

A seller is only required to provide return shipping from the buyer's input address at time of checkout - that goes for any return where a seller provides shipping ('free' returns, etc).
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/All-Items-Are-Free/m-p/31966203#M1772511
Message #20 from tyler

https://community.ebay.ca/t5/Buyer-Central/Global-Shipping-program-extremely-low-efficiency/m-p/4746... - tyler Post #13.

robbie31415 · ‎09-06-2023

I don't know what point you are trying to make.

No address voids money back guarantee. Doesn't matter if it's to a FF.

The buyer has to admit they had their package forwarded to void the money back guarentee.

This has been verified on these forums by eBay employees.

wastingtime101 · ‎09-06-2023

@robbie31415 wrote:
@wastingtime101 Sorry for always bugging you, forgot to tag you on my post but always like your input on shipping matters.

Can you provide some advise on this ?

I didn't read the entire discussion, so sorry if I'm repeating any advice already offered.

If the packages were shipped Ground Adv, Priority, UPS, etc there is $100 included insurance. File lost package claims. If a carrier consistently pays out on lost packages to the same address they will take notice. File a report with the USPIS with supporting evidence (a long list of tracking numbers) if fraud is suspected.

Did anybody say what the tracking looks like before it ends up in limbo and not delivered? Is it stuck on out for delivery, is it returned back to the distro center, is it 'delivered to agent for final delivery'? 'Delivered to agent' is formally covered in eBay policy as delivered and the issue with Seller Hub not recognizing delivered status was (after 8 long months) corrected.

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