90 Day Pause on Tariffs....

[monica-sells]

News for Sellers as well as Buyers for now.....

Market up 2400...insane

[tarotfindsandmore]

We have these awesome things here in WA state called trees.  So many, in fact, that they've never been able to find D.B. Cooper.

Where do you think we got our toilet paper before this stupid little arrangement went into effect?

Here's a thought...take our cheese/milk and we'll keep letting you wipe our backsides, and continue protecting you and your interests from the rest of world. 🙂

[campanaelia]

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@cardxcraft wrote:

meme wrote: I agree except for one detail, He is NOT a leader!

78 million Americans, 2024 POTUS popular voters, swing state voters and states with absolute voter id requirements kindly disagree with your statement.  Btw, isn't it odd Trump won every state with an absolute voter id requirement.  More to come, as dem popularity is tanking and 2028 will require voter id.

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Trump won with 49.8%,   Kamala Harris got 48.3% and 1.9% voted for third-party candidates, so more Americans voted against Trump than voted for him.

He also won some swing states by less than 1% and there is plenty of voters remorse since 1/20/25...

Trump won the presidential election, but not ‘by a lot!’

Hopefully the recent special election in PA is a sign of what the future will bring. A Democrat last represented Lancaster County in the Senate in 1889

Democrats take hope from upset win in a GOP-leaning Pennsylvania state Senate district

The recent WI supreme court race that Musk spent $20 mil on and lost is another sign of the future

Democrats’ win in Wisconsin court race also is a big loss for Elon Musk 

And lastly the 2 special elections recently in FL replacing Gaetz and Waltz were closer than they normally should of been.

The republicans are their own worst enemy and the more they expose themselves to the public the less likely they'll win any elections going forward, except of course their heavily gerrymandered districts!

[chapeau-noir]

Truth is the daughter of time. We'll see.  😉

[gone.c-33]

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@cardxcraft wrote:

meme wrote: I agree except for one detail, He is NOT a leader!

78 million Americans, 2024 POTUS popular voters, swing state voters and states with absolute voter id requirements kindly disagree with your statement.  Btw, isn't it odd Trump won every state with an absolute voter id requirement.  More to come, as dem popularity is tanking and 2028 will require voter id.  No more dreamers and corpses on the dem voter rolls.

Trump is a survivor of assasination attempts/plots, despicable and disgusting lawfare by the left, two time POTUS, creator of the Trump brand, billionaire, has secured $7 trillion usd in new investments in just a few months and his amazing New York Times number 1 best selling book for 13 weeks straight, "The Art of the Deal".  He does have that "it factor".

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This has to be a parody account. 

[midwestmerch17]

Will be interesting to see what will happen.

[campanaelia]

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@midwestmerch17 wrote:

Will be interesting to see what will happen.

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Yes, I get the same feeling when I place a double or nothing bet at the casino.

But it's very irresponsible to make the whole country take part in this huge gamble. I don't think he has the cards!

[chapeau-noir]

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@gone.c-33 wrote:

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@cardxcraft wrote:

meme wrote: I agree except for one detail, He is NOT a leader!

78 million Americans, 2024 POTUS popular voters, swing state voters and states with absolute voter id requirements kindly disagree with your statement.  Btw, isn't it odd Trump won every state with an absolute voter id requirement.  More to come, as dem popularity is tanking and 2028 will require voter id.  No more dreamers and corpses on the dem voter rolls.

Trump is a survivor of assasination attempts/plots, despicable and disgusting lawfare by the left, two time POTUS, creator of the Trump brand, billionaire, has secured $7 trillion usd in new investments in just a few months and his amazing New York Times number 1 best selling book for 13 weeks straight, "The Art of the Deal".  He does have that "it factor".

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This has to be a parody account. 

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I keep thinking this is actually someone who writes for The Onion.

Trump folded like a cheap tent on those tariffs - if he truly thought they were The Answer, he wouldn't have. Like I say - look at what he does, not what he says. 

[reallynicestamps]

 The first round ....

[fern*wood]

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@cardxcraft wrote:

 We (USA) would have to compel Nayib Bukele to release MS-13 gang member, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, from the notorius CECOT prison and hand him over to US officials. Not going to happen

Where have you seen proof that Garcia is a MS-13 gang member?  One good thing used to be in the United States, we had a process where we could defend ourselves of accusations, which set us apart from authoritative countries.  He might be guilty, but do we know that?   We used to be a country of laws, but I found myself writing this in past tense because it  seems to not be the case now.

[fbusoni]

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@tarotfindsandmore wrote:

Exactly.  One thing I'm seeing over and over in these threads (and the media tbh) is a very basic, fundamental misunderstanding of what a tariff is and how it works.  Tariffs are not taxes.  They are fees levied against a trading partner, imposed to deter a nation from buying another nation's goods. 

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@tarotfindsandmore 

I looked up the definition of "tax."

According to the Google:

"A tax is a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits, or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.

I don't claim to know much about monetary policy or international finance, but what you have described above in red sounds very much to me like a sort of tax, with the same net effect as a tax.  

Even though it is not called a "tax" and is aimed at making foreign products imported into the US less competitive, it still can mean more money out of the pockets (compulsorily) of American consumers.

Take the example of the lady in Virginia who I have mentioned who owns a pie shop.  She gets her pie tins from Canada.

Now she will have to pay 15% more for those pie tins.  That 15% will be collected at the border by the USG.

The shop owner can raise her prices of her pies to meet the additional cost of the tins, but that will obviously lead to less business for her.

Or she can hope to find a new US source for her pie tins.   But that might seem unlikely, as the price of US pie tins is what drove her initially to purchase from Canada.  

If US domestic demand for US-made pie tins increases, is that going to lead to a lowering of US-made pie-tin prices?  Not on this planet it won't.

In sum, it seems that this tax/tariff discussion is really one of semantics... even Peter Navarro has made clear publicly (and erroneously, it appears) that revenue from tariffs will "pay" for the administration's tax cuts over the next 10 years. 

Money is fungible.

[gurlcat]

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@fbusoni wrote:

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... even Peter Navarro has made clear publicly that revenue from tariffs will "pay" for the administrations tax cuts over the next 10 years. 

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 Navarro's go-to economics expert has been (for years) someone named Ron Vara.  -A literally FAKE PERSON.  Ron Vara is an anagram of Navarro. 

[cardxcraft]

silver: The Biden administration had an astronomical 20 trillion in domestic investments in 2024. The Trump administration has squandered -13 trillion in domestic investments since taking office in Jan/25.

Do you see how easy it is to spew out the verbal diarrhea when it's not based on actual facts.....  

You don't understand: Donald Trump has secured an additional $7 trillion usd in investments from offshored and foreign corps, which is completely different from what you're stating; which is a lie btw.

Just because MSDNC tells you to believe free trade is fantastic doesn't mean that it is.  In fact, free trade is as insane of an idea as open borders, neither work well for the country with these policies.

Free trade=offshoring, money out, communities suffer, especially smaller communities.  As an example: what if we allowed 100% free trade with China.  

1. They constantly devalue their currency, so they're in a position of cheap labor.

2. They can produce automobiles for next to nothing.

3. Their population is over 1 billion people larger than USA, yet their GDP is $12 trilliion usd lower.

What would happen to the USA car market, and consequently the economy, if we allowed free trade?  I'll let you ponder this.

You think you're going against the grain, being a revolutionary, but what you don't realize is big pharma and legacy media are operated by globalists.  Think about it, before October 5, 2024 (Trump's 2nd visit to Butler, Pennsylvania) where Elon Musk did the famous jump for joy, he was the darling of the lib world.  Now it's down with Elon and EV.

[reallynicestamps]

Tariffs are not taxes.  They are fees levied against a trading partner, imposed to deter a nation from buying another nation's goods. 

Now she will have to pay 15% more for those pie tins. That 15% will be collected at the border by the USG.

And note:

The importer is paying the tax/tariff.

Not the exporter.

The importer is a US resident.

The US resident is paying the tax/tariff.

A nation cannot levy a tax or tariff against another nation. It can only levy and collect them from their own residents.

[fbusoni]

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@fern*wood wrote:

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@cardxcraft wrote:

 We (USA) would have to compel Nayib Bukele to release MS-13 gang member, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, from the notorius CECOT prison and hand him over to US officials. Not going to happen

Where have you seen proof that Garcia is a MS-13 gang member?  One good thing used to be in the United States, we had a process where we could defend ourselves of accusations, which set us apart from authoritative countries.  He might be guilty, but do we know that?   We used to be a country of laws, but I found myself writing this in past tense because it  seems to not be the case now.

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@fern*wood 

I would humbly disagree... we ARE, thank god, still a nation of laws: the Supreme Court has ruled unanimously against the administration on the Garcia matter as you have probably seen. 

And THAT intervention by SCOTUS is what the White House seeks... a series of rulings that will address in some manner the ambiguities that were written INTENTIONALLY into our Constitution regarding the scope of presidential power.

The founders of our republic assumed that whoever was elected to  the highest office in the land would comport himself / herself like the founders -- patrician, educated, civilized, empathic, worldly -- themselves.

As if.

So now, probably for the first time in our history, we are seeing whether the guardrails that were set up by the framers of the Constitution are working.  

And thus far the evidence is, in my opinion, that they are.

The sum total of Mr. Trump's executive orders (EO)-- whether about immigration, deportation, tariffs, USG workers, University grants, or the USG "official" definition of a man and a woman -- are designed to test the boundaries of his seemingly limitless thirst for power.  

I would argue that the fact that there are now nearly 4 dozen court cases in play contesting one or another of those EOs is a good sign.  

Mr. Trump is going to win some of those court cases, and he will lose some.  He already has made clear he will uphold the law and will appeal if he has to.

He has no choice.   He puts on a good show of being a wannabe dictator, but he does not have the nerve to send the US military out on the streets of Main Street America to enforce his will.  Indeed, I would argue that he stands a very good chance of inviting a military coup should he try... and he knows it.

[cardxcraft]

It's a fact, Kilmar Abrego Garcia entered the country illegally.  You have a fundamental misunderstanding of due process and the rule of law.  MS-13 gang member, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, could've came through a USA port of entry and declared asylum, but he didn't because he muled in drugs for the cartel.  Good luck getting your dreamer back from Bukele.