02-17-2022 04:18 PM
I wonder how many sellers have stopped selling due to the new IRS rules on 1099 forms
02-17-2022 07:41 PM
I still haven't gotten my 1099 for for 2021, but went ahead & filled out my taxes today, just didn't file them yet. Used my own figures and the ones on the excel I got from eBay for the whole of last year. Will wait til April to see if the 1099 shows up (I did contact eBay a week ago about it- they said give them 10 days). Hope it's not hard to reconcile.
On a happier note, I discovered that I can deduct my medicare premiums since I am self employed. (The portion of them I've paid since I starting selling on eBay last year).
02-17-2022 07:41 PM
@ollmarci-xxzlqsa8 wrote:I wonder how many sellers have stopped selling due to the new IRS rules on 1099 forms
Why would they? If they have been accurately reporting their income from sales it would not affect them or only serve to back up their figures reported on their return.
02-17-2022 08:01 PM
@mikhirs wrote:I still haven't gotten my 1099 for for 2021, but went ahead & filled out my taxes today, just didn't file them yet. Used my own figures and the ones on the excel I got from eBay for the whole of last year. Will wait til April to see if the 1099 shows up (I did contact eBay a week ago about it- they said give them 10 days). Hope it's not hard to reconcile.
On a happier note, I discovered that I can deduct my medicare premiums since I am self employed. (The portion of them I've paid since I starting selling on eBay last year).
I haven't gotten any of mine, either, and my state has the $600 requirement. I filed anyway last week (I keep my own records), already got my state refund.
Nobody has sent me a 1099 - not eBay, not Paypal, not any of the other gigs I have. I wasn't going to wait. I figure I'm not gonna be the one getting in trouble, the folks that are supposed to send the 1099s are. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
02-17-2022 08:35 PM
Tens of thousands this calendar year and hundreds of thousands, if not millions once they actually get them in 2023 for the 2022 tax year.
A quick look out of the echo chamber of threats and the like you get on this board, and into the real one, tells a very daunting picture.
Forums also have hundreds to thousands saying they are quitting on each one.
eBay & PayPal are two of the top short stocks across just about every website you can find.
The people in the know, know what's about to happen.
02-17-2022 09:16 PM - edited 02-17-2022 09:20 PM
Not sure you understand what this person is stating...
02-17-2022 09:22 PM
Zero profit=zero tax owed.
02-17-2022 09:26 PM
Have not stopped selling, but they have moved to craigslist and Facebook. I don't know what qualifies someone as a "Seller".
02-17-2022 09:51 PM
I wonder how many sellers have stopped selling due to the new IRS rules on 1099 forms
At last count 1,364,321 sellers stopped selling due to the new IRS rules on 1099 forms.
02-17-2022 10:24 PM
@ollmarci-xxzlqsa8 wrote:I wonder how many sellers have stopped selling due to the new IRS rules on 1099 forms
I hope tons of them did.
02-17-2022 10:27 PM
@dnasilver wrote:all 1099's have a box on top that says "corrected" and a 1099K does not say anything about if you owe taxes. It shows money being moved. That is all it is. Why are people getting over concerned about this? Either you have been paying taxes on earned or unearned income or you have not been. It has nothing to do with getting a 1099! What is the chance or odds of you being audited? You have better odds winning in a casino than ever being audited!
If you win in a casino better make sure you pay taxes on that too.
02-17-2022 10:33 PM
It is taxable income.
02-18-2022 01:47 AM
1099 forms report sales to the IRS as taxable income. I fear they will be incorrectly reported, what’s hard to understand?
Did your 1099k that you received for 2021 have errors?
If not, or if you did not receive one then I would not be pulling the plug after 18 years because of something that ''may'' happen.
02-18-2022 05:18 AM
all the cheaters that try to beat the system like more room for us to sell
02-18-2022 05:52 AM - edited 02-18-2022 05:57 AM
@espresso_warehouse wrote:
@ollmarci-xxzlqsa8 wrote:Oh I understand, but, I fear that forms will be issued for items which are not taxable, once issued, you won’t correct it. Ever try to convince the IRS you don’t owe them what they say you do? After 18 years, I’m done witah ebay
I've been filling out pages of tax schedule forms since I was 18 years old. What is the issue? I don't get it.
IMHO the issue is that the IRS does not appear to have issued any clear guidance about how to account for nontaxable income on a 2022 tax return. And this lack of guidance is unsettling for some taxpayers.
Now before everyone jumps on the "tax cheat" bandwagon, let me give a specific example.
If Harry sells a used mountain bike on eBay for $600 which is substantially less than he paid for it. In other words, it was the equivalent of a yard sale. His selling was not a sustained endeavor, it was not run like a business, and it was not entered into for profit. Under the "Sale of personal items" in IRS publication 525, the IRS says this $600 does not need to be reported.
So if this happened in 2019 Harry would correctly leave that $600 off his tax return because in publication 525 the IRS says it is not reportable, and as a result there is no tax consequence.
And if it happens in 2022 Harry would correctly leave that $600 off his tax return because in publication 525 the IRS says it is not reportable, and as a result there is no tax consequence.
However, for 2022 Harry will receive a 1099-K for the $600 that the IRS says does not need to be report. And history and posts on this board suggest that the IRS will see that 1099-K as unreported income, add it to his return as income, and send him a bill for $600 that the IRS says should not be reported.
So the "issue" is that the IRS has not issued any clear guidance about how a taxpayer should properly account for non-reportable income that appears on a 1099-K so that he does not have to pay taxes on nontaxable income.
Granted, no one has seen the 2022 tax form yet, and no one has seen the 2022 publication 525 yet, so it is possible that the IRS will update that form and that publication and explain what the tax payer should do. And that lack of guidance is causing concern for many taxpayers.
02-18-2022 06:08 AM - edited 02-18-2022 06:11 AM
@katzrul15 wrote:
@ollmarci-xxzlqsa8 wrote:1099 forms report sales to the IRS as taxable income. I fear they will be incorrectly reported, what’s hard to understand?
If you "fear" this, you are then not currently claiming the gross revenue from your online sales and working to apply any applicable deductions available on Schedule C?
See my post above.
There are many seller who run businesses who are tax cheats who have not been reporting their income. And I applaud the fact that this 1099-K reporting requirement will now bring them into compliance. No issue there at all.
But there is another category of seller that the IRS specifically acknowledges in publication 525. These are sellers who are honestly selling personal items at a loss and are not a business and who should not be filing a Schedule C. To me, these are often the the sellers who bring what little charm is left to eBay.
It is the lack of guidance from the IRS about how to account for nontaxable income on a 1099-K that I believe some sellers may fear, and their fear is legitimate.
They are hearing stories since the 1099-K law was passed that the IRS has been adding 1099-K amounts as taxable income, even though under IRS guidelines that income is not taxable. And now that 1099-K limits have been lowered for a lot more sellers, then a lot more sellers will find themselves in this predicament.