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A warning for sellers of high value items, don't loose thousands of dollars like me.

                                                                               Back Story

I sold a precision electronic device worth around $4000, after receiving the item the buyer discovered that it wasn't fully functional and asked for a refund. After talking with the buyer about the problem I agreed to refund him. I knew I could send the item to the manufacturer and have it repaired, resell it, and still make a profit. 

                                                                              Actual Issue

  Because of the high price of the item I was required to purchase signature verification for delivery. But when the buyer shipped it back ebay did not require him to get signature verification for delivery. And because there was no signature verification when the item was delivered it was left by the front door and sat out in the rain for about 5 hours. The box was soaked through and the item was wet which damaged it beyond repair. 

                                                                         eBays Response

#1

You knew the delivery time and should have been there to receive it.

  • Someone was there but without signature verification, the carrier just left it by the front door.

#2

It's not covered for damages during shipping because it was delivered. 

#3 

You issued a refund so the case is closed.

  • I only issued a refund because you have 2 days to do so after it's delivered or they just take the money from you. And I didn't want it to reflect negatively on my seller rating. 

End Result

The item having spent a few hours exposed to the elements is not something eBay is authorized to compensate or assume responsibility for.

     If eBay had required signature verification for the return this would have never happened. An obvious flaw in their return policy but they will never admit to it. So in the end I have no recourse and I'm out thousands of dollars, this goes to show that eBay really doesn't care about its small-time sellers, very disappointing. 

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Re: A warning for sellers of high value items, don't loose thousands of dollars like me.

If you have a high value item and you want to be certain it get’s back safely, then yes turn on the RMA AND put INSURANCE AND THE SIGNATURE TRACKING IN IT. 

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Re: A warning for sellers of high value items, don't loose thousands of dollars like me.

Right for sure. I certainly cannot be babysitting peoples packages on here. BE RESPONSIBLE BUYER.

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IF I , the buyer and  with over 1 grand purchase. As a Buyer I am going to contact that seller and ask them to send it safely and securely AND I will pay for it to be sure of it AND not expect THE SELLER to flip the bill.

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Conversely, If I am a seller with a buyer who just bought a 1 grand purchase. I am going to make darn sure that package gets there safely with it insured to the max AND signature tracking. 

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hello, i SOLD AN iPHONE ON EBAY TO A BUYER ADDRESSED TO 3601 CAPITAL TRAIL WILMINGTON DE.19808 WHICH EBAY KNOWS THIS IS A SCAMMERS PARADISE, SO BUYER TELLS EBAY HE WANTS TO RETURN IT, EBAY SENDS HIM A RETURN LABEL,WHICH HE DID NOT USE, WENT ON USPS MADE HIS OWN,SUPPLIED EBAY AND MYSELF W TRACKIN NUMBER HOWEVER HE USES A DIFFERENT MAILING ADDRESS WITH EBAY COMMERCE NAME , I NEVER REC'D THE PHONE, i GOT ALL THE INFO FROM USPS WITH HIS TRACK # IT SHOWS A DIFFERENT ADDRESS ,  I THEN SEND IT TO EBAY & THEY CLOSE THE CASE IN MY FAVOR -THEN THE NEXT DAY BUYER REOPENS IT AND EBAY REFUNDS HIM BECAUSE EBAY SAYS IT CAME TO MY CITY & ZIP,,THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF HOMES IN THIS ZIP CODE, HE NEVER LOOKED AT MY PROOF FROM USPS, ,,NOW EBAY WANTS ME TO PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKE,  EBAY WILL NOT STAND BEHIND SELLERS, IVE BEEN WITH THEM FOR OVER 17 YRS, I LOOK ON HERE AND ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING SCAMMED AND EBAY IS NOT STANDING BEHIND US,, IM GOING TO REPORT ALL THIS TO ATTORNEY GENERALS OFFICE AND PUT PRESSURE ON THEM, THIS IS BAD BUSINESS AND VERY SHADY. EBAY NEEDS TO FIX THIS SCAMMING AND PROTECT US IF THEY WANT SELLERS,

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just beware if he wants to return it for any reason, eBay will back him up and refund him, and you'll be out the money. hopefully that won't happen and if it does, contact the BBB to expose eBay.  my buyer flew the coop and eBay wants me to pay for their mistakes. no seller protection.   scammers are on here. 

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@rider9751 wrote:

Because it was pouring down rain and she was taking care of our two kids. So she had no reason to go outside. 


If it was right by front door as you said then for $4000 you'd think she could have stepped out real quick in that 5 hours.

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She was keeping an eye out for the delivery but we have a 4-year-old and a 1-year-old that keep her pretty busy, i would in no way put the blame on her for not seeing the package sooner because she was taking care of the kids. To my original point, all this could have been avoided if eBay had required the buyer to include signature verification when returning the item. 

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I agree,  eBay's seller protections are more to protect them than the seller and they will always find a way to not accept any responsibility. You should have seen the list of excuses they were giving me as to why they couldn't do anything. Even after I would disprove their excuses they just had more.  

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@rider9751 

Very experienced sellers have provided excellent procedures for handling returns. 

The bottom line is the seller is responsible for making sure the return is handled as they wish. Not eBay.

 

 

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This is why I have a UPS mailbox.  They sign for and hold everything for me.  After a USPS driver screwing up several deliveries, it was cheaper to pay for a box than rely on them.

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