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Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

brian@ebay
eBay Staff (Alumni)

Join the Community team here at 1 PM PT on January 22nd for our Weekly Chat with eBay Staff. We don't have a set topic this week, so please bring any general questions you may have about buying or selling.

 

The chat will be open for questions from 1-2 pm PT, at which point we'll close thread from additional responses. After this time, we'll continue to work on responding to any queries that might still be unanswered.


If you're new to the chat, welcome!  Simply Reply to this post with your question from 1-2 PM Pacific Time and we'll be happy to look into it for you.

 

*Please note that we're not able to address account-specific queries. Questions regarding your account should be directed to eBay Customer Service.

Brian,
Community Team
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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

Anonymous
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@krys888 wrote:

Are you saying promoted listings aren’t in the buyer’s requested search order? Meaning, the items ending soonest might not be ending soonest; might be promoted listings? If that’s the case, the search isn’t true. Is that intentional? 


Hi @krys888, correct. It would not be possible to both showcase a promoted listing and also filter search by chronological end date. Promoted listings are clearly indicated in search results and all other results comply with the buyer's search filters, so there should not be any cause for confusion.

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

@vrykalak wrote:
@greg213213 wrote:

Are there any plans to fix the search? I was searching for an item and used the "ending soonest" and when it came up it had multiple items that were mixed in that didn't end for 10 to 20 days. Someone needs to check this out as it will drive buyers away if it shows items that are all over the end time.

Hi @greg213213, it is likely that you were seeing Promoted Listings in search results that would not have any filters you used applied. I'll be happy to double check this if you can provide me with the URL for the search results you were looking at.

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What good is a search engine that ignores your keywords just because it wants to show (totally irrelevant) promoted listings? That's appalling!

Hi @vrykalak, I did not say anything about keywords. Promoted listings will be related to the keywords you used, they just do not currently apply any filters that are used to further refine search beyond the initial keyword results.

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Okay, that's a little better.
I jumped to that conclusion because I have often seen search results--near the top of the first page--that contain NONE of my keywords, and most searches yield results that are missing some of my keywords.
When someone sets up a search, they truly only want to see results that match those keywords. 
I've frequently asked for a switch I can set that says: don't show me any results that don't contain all of my keywords. 
Now you say the PTB have decided to show results that violate the filters I've set, too.
eBay's search engine used to be the best in the world. 
It certainly isn't any more, and hasn't been for years.

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

Sounds like you’re having a pay-to-play conflict. (Like the monkey that can’t get his hand out of the box unless he drops some of the bananas.) You’re trying to have your cake and eat it too. Points:

1. Buyers are spending money and expect integrity of the search, that ebay claims of “ending soonest” and/or “lowest price” are adherent to Truth-In-Advertising rules; that “ending soonest” is not being misrepresented.

2. Sellers are spending money to get top placement for their listings. But if buyers can’t trust the search, then there is less incentive for them to search and therefore less visibility for promoted listings.

3. Using “buyers are used to **bleep** service and searches that are nonsense” as a justification for low standards doesn’t seem like a leader-brand strategy. Lowering the bar because everyone else is doing it doesn’t make sense, with all due respect.

 

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics


@gwzcomps wrote:

tyler@ebay 


Followup from last week and your statement:


"From an order of operations standpoint, an eBay Money Back Guarantee request is going to trump a stated return policy. While a buyer is not allowed to make a false claim, without evidence that they have abused our system we'd see this as an assumption and wouldn't invalidate their coverage from our protection program. "

 

If this is true then why aren't we still protected on blatantly obvious false claims regardless of return policies?

 

In my eyes these mishandling of policies consistently demonstrate one thing. eBay only cares about what the buyers do if it hurts eBay's bottom line. eBay is not concerned with the seller's losses despite what lines we are spoon-fed. Despite what eBay wants to think, the sellers are the ones paying the fees and keeping your lights on.

 

If eBay is actually committed to improving the quality of buyers then prove it by enforcing your polices in these situations:

  1. Dealing with buyers that make multiple accounts to circumvent blocks.
  2. Dealing with buyers that make multiple accounts to circumvent site policy violations.
  3. Dealing with buyers that somehow are magically able to circumvent buyer requirements settings.
  4. Dealing with buyers that file false claims.

#1 & #2 Do the same account verification and linking you do to buyers as you do sellers. Make it so we only have to block one ID to block all linked accounts.
#3 Never got an answer from CS but I don't know how some buyers are getting around people's buyer requirements without changing to a different account.
#4 Yes I know you guys have claimed buyers who file false claims get dealt with. Give us proof. Either give us a way to use the buyer requirements to stop them from making purchases from us or remove the strikes on our service metrics on all provable false claims.

 

 

In the middle of being sick so hopefully this is coherent and intelligible.


Hi @gwzcomps - thanks for your insights into ways we could change to make you feel more secure! I'll make sure they are shared with the right teams.  

 

With regards to your first question: there isn't anything that we would consider blatantly obvious, since most things are subjective. Something we would consider blatant is if we see that there is a pattern of abuse from a buyer. Otherwise, if you as a seller qualify for protections by offering free returns or are a Top Rated seller offering 30 day returns you are able to report the buyer for us to review and to grant you access to issue a less than full refund as well as protect your seller performance (as you know).

Tyler,
eBay
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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

Buyer Requirements:

We can select some requirements.

How about being able to block:

Buyers who leave X amount of negative feedbacks?

Buyers who have a few too many returns?

Buyers with ZERO feedback maybe having to contact a seller prior to purchase?

Also

Why not make it so a buyer MUST check their mailing address IF they have not purchased in say 90 days?

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics


@autopiacarcare wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@greg213213 wrote:

I was looking at laptop computers and very few of the items had been promoted listings, but just regular listings.


Hi @greg213213, I just ran a search for laptops and sorted by ending soonest to test this out; in the results, everything is organized by the ending soonest filter correctly with the exception of the results that are promoted listings. If you can give me a URL that is showing something different, I'll be happy to investigate further.


@Anonymous  - Can you look into this one please? https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=UF535&_sacat=0&_ipg=200&_sop=16

 

Supposed to be sorted by price highest first, but I see some lower ones in out of order places that don't say "sponsored".

 

For example:

I see it go from $136.00 to $118.98 to $132.76

 

And then I see one at $128.98 then a few in the $88-$89 range and then $127.16


Never mind, I see now that the shipping total makes them fall in line.  The reason I brought it up though is I saw the same thing on this same search a few days ago and the items that were odd prices didn't have shipping or the shipping didn't make them fall in line with the pricing.  It just seemed really odd to me.

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

Perhaps put in a 'recall' for the single package.

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

The foolishness of one's actions or words is determined by the number of witnesses.

Perhaps if Brains were described as an APP, many people would use them more often.

Respect, like money, is only of 'worth' when it is earned - with all due respect, it can not be ordained, legislated or coerced. Anonymous
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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

How are we supposed to work with drafts and seller hub when this is on and off all afternoon:

 

Create a copy

Something went wrong. Please try again.

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

Anonymous
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@gwzcomps wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@greg213213 wrote:

As you stated they could have been promoted listings, but why are they showing up when searching for time ending soonest? It would be fine to have then show up on best match, but not when you filter by a specific way a buyer wants to purchase or look for an item.


Hi @greg213213, this is definitely something on our radar to look into for potential enhancements, but currently promoted listings do not take into account additional search refinements. For this example, the very nature of "Ending soonest" would invalidate the purpose of promoted listings - it would not be possible to promote a listing and give it increased visibility while also placing it exactly where it would appear chronologically. That being said, promoted/sponsored listings are not a concept that is unique to the eBay Marketplace, so the potential for this to create confusion for the majority of buyers is very low (as they have had similar experiences when shopping online).


I would love to see proof that this doesn't cause confusion for buyers.  I find the placement of the sponsored posts to be frustrating when I am trying to do search filtering.  When I can't block them with my adblocker it makes it even more discouraging to buy stuff on eBay.  I think there may be more advanced users than eBay realizes.


Hi @gwzcomps, it wouldn't be possible to provide proof of a subjective experience. I simply wanted to offer reassurance that while this experience may raise questions ("Why is this listing showing up here based on my search filters"), the answers are present upon review ("It isn't possible to sort a promoted listing in search results chronologically by end date.").

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

Hi Alan,
Yes, the Jan 14th podcast, here it is from the transcript. Harry refers to it as "heavy browse":

"Because it's been so successful, we've actually enhanced it even further. We recently added the capability so that when a buyer adds an item to the cart but they haven't purchased it yet, that will light up SIO as well and allow you to send them an offer to get them over the hump because it's sitting in their cart. And the latest piece that we're just beginning the ramp up on is heavy browse. When a buyer clicks on your listing, say more than three times but hasn't watched it, that will also engage SIO. It will allow you to send them a personalized discount even though they haven't added it to the cart or they haven't added it as a watch."

Thanks for any information you can get from Harry's team!
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@fern*wood wrote:

I've been trying to print my quarterly sales information for my income tax preparation for the last two days and it has been unavailable.  Is ebay still supporting Sales Reports Plus?


Hi @fern*wood - there's currently a technical issue impacting some members who aren't able to access Sales Reports Plus. I've added your account to the open ticket. 

 

In the meantime, the workaround suggestion is to use the Report option in the Orders section of Seller Hub to at least make sure you can capture all the sales data for the last quarter. Thanks!

Tyler,
eBay
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tyler@ebay wrote:

@fern*wood wrote:

I've been trying to print my quarterly sales information for my income tax preparation for the last two days and it has been unavailable.  Is ebay still supporting Sales Reports Plus?


Hi @fern*wood - there's currently a technical issue impacting some members who aren't able to access Sales Reports Plus. I've added your account to the open ticket. 

 

In the meantime, the workaround suggestion is to use the Report option in the Orders section of Seller Hub to at least make sure you can capture all the sales data for the last quarter. Thanks!


When I try to access Sales Reports Plus I get the "it's not you, it's us" error page. Is that the same technical issue being discussed above?

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

Anonymous
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@coffeebean832 wrote:

Are there any known site issues relating to unpaid item cases right now?

 

I have the UPI assistant enabled but it didn't open a case for a recent transaction on the day it was supposed to. I ended up opening the case manually.

 

The case is supposed to close today but the buyer messaged saying they've been out of the country and they will pay in 2 days when they return. That's fine with me so I went to turn off the UPI assistant but got an error message. I don't know if that's because I had to manually open the case or not. I can't tell if this specific case is going to automatically close tonight or if it's on manual right now.


Hi @coffeebean832, I think I would need to take a closer look at this to see what might be going on. I don't see any widespread reports of UPI Assistant issues, but if you can send me the item number to the email address for our team I will be happy to investigate further.

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

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@coffeebean832 wrote:

I have 2 listings that were created February 28th, but when I sort my listings by ending soonest I can see they are set to renew on the 1st of the month. This appears to be a recurrence of the glitch where listings were renewing on the wrong date after everything was changed to GTC.

 

For reference- https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Listings-Renewing-on-Wrong-Day/m-p/30146127#M1470091


Hi @coffeebean832, can you provide me with item number examples to review? You can send these to email for our team or share them here, whatever you prefer.

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Re: Community Chat, January 22 @ 1:00 pm PT - General Topics

For us it gets worse on the estimated time for buyers in PR, Hawaii, AK

 

Priority USPS showing estimates several days (over 1 week) past out listed handling time ship date.

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