Just this week, I can't view pictures of items with firefox ver 53.0 web browser, on win xp

[mod_metal]

 

Just this week, I can't view pictures of items with firefox ver 53.0 web browser, on win xp.

This must be a recent change? Its just in the last week? I open a listing, click on the pictures, and they don't enlarge, or let me pick another picture but the top level one.

All I see is the first picture in its small thumb format.

Why Why Why?

Another stupid thing I saw today is the new listing tool. I tried to set a start time in the future, and that wouldn't work. (IT has been changing off and on the last 2 months).

So why don't the 8th grader software people, try out all the new changes?

I know I should get a new computer and all, and create more landfill like everyone else, but it seems like all the 8th grade software people at ebay are constantly working on making searching, viewing pictures, and actually making a listing harder. These tools have worked for 22 years for me, and now I must be at the end of using Win XP.

There are a lot of us that like XP for several good reasons. I have worked hard to keep a simple machine simple running, and just like the XP file manager, and some simple programs I still use with it.

[guy_d]

I am in the same position. My primary PC is winXP, with the final Firefox ver that works on it. I *much* prefer this combination to later Windows & browsers. About a week ago I think, I noticed listing image 'hover to zoom' and click to enlarge stopped working briefly, then came good again. A couple of days ago it failed and has not come back.

This makes ebay completely unusable. I can't buy items if I can't examine the photos closely (and save them, for purchase reference.) Seems like some ebay site programmer has decided to switch to DOM/JS code that's not compatible with older browsers. But why?

I've noticed a few other such failures, but so far others all have workarounds. eg in the 'view cart' popup after adding to cart, the "X" to dismiss the popup now does nothing. Workaround - just close the browser window or tab that spawned that popup. Again, WHY did that code need changing?

The image-zoom failure is a killer. My only workaround atm is to go to a different building, and use a very inconvenient Win10 MS-Surface laptop that I hate - tiny screen, cannot access LAN fileshares, etc.

[tamasdad]

Having the same issue with an new Mac Safari so i doubt its related to browser

[eburtonlab]

Having the same issue with an new Mac Safari so i doubt its related to browser

If using a different browser avoids the problem entirely, then it is definitely related to your browser in one way or another.

[mod_metal]

I went and tried using my other windows 7 computer and the ebay pictures viewed correct with both google chrome and firefox 107. version browsers.

My firefox xp browser is 52.9.0 32 bit ESR release, not ver 53.0 as previously stated.

This is the browser that has worked for many things but struggles more every month these days. I still think it should be able to handle pictures? I previously was fine with it not supporting modern high def video files, and other new stuff. But pictures? come on man... they are just jpegs!

[guy_d]

Yes of course, that is the point of this thread. It's ebay coder(s) assuming everyone uses the latest browser versions. But not everyone does, and those of us that are still using very old browsers, generally have solid reasons for doing so. It's very annoying when ebay breaks compatibility in basic, essential site features that have been working fine for literally decades. Does ebay have a very good reason for changing such code (incrementally) to the latest whizz-bang DOM-manipulation-by-JS templates, or is it just young, new hires showing off, because they can and don't care about minority user groups?

The previous thing that broke badly, was the page width in 'my purchases' and 'watchlist'. It suddenly became some very large multiple (20x?) my actual screen width (for both of my different-sized dual monitors.) Meaning I had to use the H-scroll bar a ridiculous amount to do anything at all.

Then that returned to normal on the 'my purchases' list, but remained broken (still till now) on the watchlist.

This gives me a feeling that there is _one_ incompetent coder at ebay, and he just goes around breaking things one by one. Sometimes later fixing them, but not consistently.

Guy

[guy_d]

Mine is firefox xp browser 52.6.0 32 bit ESR release. I thought that was the LAST version released that works with XP. Did you typo .9 when you meant .6?

Btw, it's not failing to handle pictures. Still works with all picture types as always. What's happening is that ebay changed the scripting of what happens when you mouse over the listing thumbnail image, to change the screen layout to show image detail, or enlarge the image. They are now using JS/CSS etc methods that old browsers don't understand. But note that old methods still work fine. Ebay just switched for some reason. And it might not be any reason other than "showoff web programmer wanted to try the new methods."

I wish they would go show off somewhere else, on some flashy site that isn't depended on by millions of people worldwide. Many with old browsers and no intention to change.

[a_c_green]

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@guy_d wrote:

I wish they would go show off somewhere else, on some flashy site that isn't depended on by millions of people worldwide. Many with old browsers and no intention to change.

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Have you tried Chrome? I was on eBay via XP myself for years past its supposed end of service (and still have a couple of XP boxes going here for noncritical work), but once Internet Explorer quit working with eBay several years ago, I tried Chrome on XP, and that worked much better, getting past the areas where IE would simply hang.

I eventually upgraded to Windoze 10 with a couple of cheap HP desktops (neither of which, I was irritated to see, are capable of supporting 11, according to Microsoft). It wasn't my preferred choice of how to spend my money, but they get the job done. I'm happy to stay with the Win 10 boxes until either they die or the never-ending software revisions advance beyond them.

[mod_metal]

I don't think any version of chrome works on xp, any longer.

I ran it for a while, but they dropped support.

My firefox xp browser is 52.9.0 32 bit ESR release, that was not a typo.

Its the last version available in extended release (I think)

[mod_metal]

So at 7:35 or so CST, on 13 december, the picture viewing function started working again!

I guess complaining works, or someone finally just found an oops?

Happy again for now

[guy_d]

It's suddenly working for me again too. That's a HUGE relief.

I wonder if they just reverted the code temporarily for some unrelated reason, or did someone actually notice this conversation and apply a fix to the code? Much appreciated if the latter.

As for why I am still using XP & very old browser, on quite old hardware, it's complex. Basically trust issues with MS/Alphabet/Google/Intel.

I'm a retired computer engineer. Thus aware of things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmTwlEh8L7g
DEF CON 26 - Christopher Domas - GOD MODE UNLOCKED Hardware Backdoors in redacted x86

I do have a path mapped out to a newer OS ( NOT win_11 or any other 'rental model' craziness ) but am always too busy to put in the time on that.