mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@deltilogical wrote:"You are eBay's supplier. eBay has the business"
But there is no holiday pay or benefits. When ebay tells me to ship without payment - and as far as I can see there is no legal guarantee they must make payment - I'm their employee.
On the right side of Payment's Community board are several threads by the Managed Payments team. You should take a peek at them as there is information there that you will most certainly need to understand.
When a buyer submits a payment the seller is considered PAID at that point. There funding source has been pinged and they payment will clear. The next step is for MP to clear the pending payment which takes 1-2 days. But understand there is NO RISK that this payment will not be paid to you. Once a buyer submits a payment, they cannot change it, cancel it or otherwise mess with it in any way. The same held true when we used PayPal. But it takes MP 1-2 days to get the literal money moved from the funding source to your MP account.
Once it is no longer Pending it moves to Available. That means that on the next BUSINESS day if you are on Daily deposits, your transfer will be sent to your bank. If you are on Weekly Deposits, then it will transfer on the next available Tuesday. Once MP makes the transfer into the ACH banking system, they no longer have control over that money; it is in the hands of the banking system. Normally it takes 1-4 days for it to arrive at your bank.
For me, I do Weekly deposits. It is sent every Tuesday morning and before noon on Wednesday my money is at my bank. I do bank with a major bank, for those using smaller more local banks, it can take longer.
Many sellers in MP ship right away as there is NO RISK to the money actually getting to your bank account unless you are having problems with your account that MP has likely notified you about.
Other sellers for whatever reason they have wait until the money is in there bank. While this is not necessary to do as it does not increase the security of you receiving your money, this is what some sellers decide to do. If you lean this way, I suggest that after you are more comfortable with how MP works, with experience, that you reconsider this decision.
Keep in mind the Selling Rules of Ebay do NOT change when you enter MP. What is required of sellers, the policies and rules remain the same. One of those rules is we must ship within our stated handling time. There will be no grace period or anything else just because you are in MP and you choose to wait until the money is in your bank before you ship.
To do that without changing your listings will result in Late Shipment Defects and certainly damage the health of your selling account. So if you are leaning towards shipping after the money is in your bank, then make sure you change your handling time on your listings BEFORE you start this practice. If you don't, then you will likely be in the penalty box before long and that pesky additional FVF of 5%.
So either way is fine, just make sure you look out for yourself, make the decision that is best for you and proceed forward. You will be fine.
MP isn't that difficult to adapt to for most sellers. It is difficult to adapt to for some Casual Sellers. These are usually sellers that don't have enough listings to warrant having a store of any level. This transition is very hard for most of these sellers. I really respect that.
The thing to consider is, do you make a profit or enough profit on what you sell here to remain selling on Ebay. Likely that answer is yes. And if your answer is yes, it is in your best interest and the best interest of your wallet to do your best to adapt.
It is like working with a budget. And believe me I HATE budgets, but they are a good tool. While you won't have access to your money instantly like you did in PP, you will usually have access to the money by this time next week. Learn to get over the hump. I understand and respect that this hump can be much harder for some than others. But once you have passed over this, things will smooth out and be easier to deal with.
In some threads you will find that sellers that really thought they could not live with this change has found out that they actually don't spend their money as fast and some find that they don't spend as much as they did when the money was instant.
I wish you nothing but the very best.
@deltilogical wrote:I appreciate your thoughtful reply - it is really about we were paid directly but now the payments are "managed" so Ebay gets the money first and then I get paid up to a week later for no actual benefit to me.
The fact remains Sales on Thursday: I don't get paid until Wednesday following. It is not an improvement for me in anyway. It makes it more difficult to manage because now I have to track the payments through the payouts into the bank account, vs simply seeing the payment in Paypal.
The simple question is can anyone show me the contractual agreement that Ebay must pay us? Is it buried in the terms and conditions that are forever being changed?
At the end of the day, my little things are selling and I'm getting *MY* money but much much slower and in a much more complicated and difficult to manage form.
I don't know that I can point you to a statement that would satisfy your question. Sorry. I can say Ebay has been here for 25 years, they aren't here for the short run. As with any money processing program, there are laws and rules they MUST follow or risk having significant issues.
Some sellers that have been in MP since the beginning, over 3 years ago, have reported on some threads that they have ALWAYS received the buyer's payment.
Here is the TOS for MP.
https://pages.ebay.com/payment/2.0/terms.html
@dariudaudery_0 wrote:Managed payments has been nothing but trouble from what i gather.
Starting tomorrow i will need to be on managed payments or else....
I will choose or else, looks much more simple.
It is important to remember the nature of how forums function. Mostly posters come here or any forum for a variety of subjects to vent and voice concerns about one thing or another. Feel good stories are rarely found on forums like this because other posters don't participate much. It is just normal human nature to fight a change, especially one the size and impact MP has.
If selling on Ebay is profitable for you, then you might consider asking some specific questions about MP to find out the facts since you have not yet used the program.
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