cancel
Showing results for 
Show  only  | Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

Practicing Scenery

As a new comer to "really serious" attempts at scenery I am rather timid about committing untried techniques to my "big" layout. I am considering building a kind of very small dummy platform, or a diorama, to practice things on BEFORE I try it on my main layout. This got me to wondering, and I thought it might make a good topic, how do you folks out there try new techniques and materials? Do you do mock ups, or do you just "throw caution to the wind" and put it right on your "pride and joy" platform? Inquiring rookie minds need to know! Marc
Message 1 of 143
latest reply
142 REPLIES 142

Re: Practicing Scenery

janesew
Enthusiast
Marc, All the books I've read gave the advice that you are now thinking about. Start with a small diorama or even an Ntrac module to get used to the techniques. I didn't listen. I thought that an 8' X 11' layout was a good small size to start. I'm too impatient. Lots of little mistakes and a real fear of trying out stuff on such a large scale. I think it is very good advice to start very small or have a small layout beside your big one. You could use the smaller as an oval to "run-in" your new locos. Or design it to fit into your layout in the future. WS makes a diorama kit as well as a very small layout kit (I think it's called Scenic Ridge) to get used to their techniques and products. A better option might be to get the Dave Frary book I suggested and make a 4X4 oval with a mountain, lake, tunnel and a siding etc. and use different techniques on different parts. Fred - another rookie
Message 2 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

Fred, You are very close. WS makes Scenic Ridge, but that is a full-fledged layout, 3'x6'. What you guys need is the WS Sub-Terrain Scenery Kit, 12"x24" #785-929. This kit comes complete with everything you need to build a diorama and practice your skills. Look on page #174 of the Walthers N scale cat. $49.98. Check ebay too. Someone may be selling the kit. Marc, and all of you, If you start something big and mess it up, just tear it out and do it over again. I can't tell you how many times I have ripped up perfectly laid track because it just didn't give me enough room to put that prize winning model in place. Or tear down the mountain because I really needed more yard space. Or repaint that prized model I mentioned because the colors did not look right from the bench to the layout with different lighting. Or start my third layout in the same space within 4 years because I changed scales. In other words, try your best. Only you can be the best judge of what is right for you. There are a thousand techniques for doing the same thing. Try one at a time. Do not be over-whelmed by the task ahead. Focus on one task at a time. There is no right or wrong in this hobby. It is all just opinion and what feels comfortable to you for what your ever changing goals in this hobby are. Remember this. Most model railroads are never, repeat, never finished. If you do not like something, tear it out. Now you have learned something new, you don't like the way you did it. Try another way. Life and this hobby are a learning experience. Enjoy it all you can while you can and be proud of what ever you have accomplished. That first craftsman kit you built, the first mile of track you laid or the first time you tried water (Marc get off the dime!), no matter what it looked like, you did it and should be proud. Not satisfied? Go and practice a new technique. This is not a science folks. It is a hobby, a pastime a leisure activity. This is for your pleasure and I surely love it! To really answer Marc's question, it depends. In the beginning I built dioramas. Now I just zoom ahead. Don't like it, tear it out. Frankly it just doesn't hurt anymore. And actually for this layout, I have no written plan. It is all in my head and I'm sure there will be a hundred changes to it before all the track is laid let alone the scenery. That is the subject for another discussion. Now go ahead and paint, plant, weather and make water (since my operation I seem to do that a lot.....there I said it for Marc). Frary is the master. WS practice kit. Enough or too much said. Fearless Leader, Pete
Message 3 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

trmwf
Enthusiast
I was pretty confident with the simpler stuff and tried ideas and new technics kind of in a back corner of the layout where if it turned out just okay it wouldn't be noticed to much. If it turned out really fine I just kep of going. If it was really bad I just pulled it up and started over. Just work with a small area to start with. Mike
Message 4 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

That's the spirit Mike. Forge ahead. FL
Message 5 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

janesew
Enthusiast
Godfather Pete, The voice of real experience. Wise words indeed. Well put! Thank you. Fred
Message 6 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

Marc, Just a suggestion. When I was selling HO on E-bay, I made a small scene to show off rolling stock that I was selling, two tunnel portals, a piece of track and the scenery. It was a great learning experiance and worked great for photos. Doug, Punk
Message 7 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

Still have it Doug? Put up a picture. We are very visual people here. Let us have fun making fun, oops, complimenting your skills......:-) Fearless Leader
Message 8 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

janesew
Enthusiast
Pete, Every time you sign with Fearless Leader I can't help but think of Rocky and Bullwinkle. That was the name of Boris and Natasha's Boss... Fearless Leader... I guess it might have something to do with the Moose part too. Explains a lot about how I communicate here, doesn't it. Fred :-)
Message 9 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

FL No I don't still have the scenery module. I was short on foam one day for the layout and that piece just happend to fit. Ah yes, The beloved Rocky and Bullwinkle. I think they are still on cable. Doug
Message 10 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

Since I am a devout Elvira fan, I loved Natasha too. I do not know why I started this FL stuff. Just popped into my head. Must be the close association with the meese. And how I miss the fractured fairy tales. Pete
Message 11 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

Pete, Check this out: Item number: 2254353861 It's a comic book, not a video, but you like to read, right? I know, it wouldn't be the same without the animation and sound effects. But I was think of ya! Oh, and let's not forget Mr. Peabody and Sherman with their "Way Back Machine" either! I found this link for the DVD of "Rocky & Bullwinkle & Friends - The Complete First Season (1961) for $32.78 on Amazon.com Ball's in your court, Pete! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00009PJT0/ref=ase_therefusal00-20/104-5447847-8147155... Mr. (like a dog on a bone) Breeze
Message 12 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

Speaking of bones.....has anyone ever done a grave yard next to their church? Pete
Message 13 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

I think Dave has one. I remember seeing one SOMEWHERE. Of course that means you'll have to go to "The Dark Side" to ask! Kill moose and squirr-ill! (It's supposed to mimic the accent....) Mr. Breeze
Message 14 of 143
latest reply

Re: Practicing Scenery

Oh and that last comment is NOT, re"Pete", NOT directed at anyone...it's just a cartoon line!! Afterwards I realized that could be taken.....OH I HATE TENDER FEELINGS!!! Mr. Breeze
Message 15 of 143
latest reply