I dislike the big A...ordered something here and....

[moondogblues]

Lo and behold I get it today in a PRIME envelope with the 'gift' receipt inside.  I am tempted to give the seller a neutral.  I am sick of the deception.

[castlemagicmemories]

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

I don’t think they should leave a neg for the seller. They should turn them into amazon.

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That would have greater consequences and they wouldn't be able to misuse Prime again.

[castlemagicmemories]

So when you say that when you go to eBay you want the product from eBay, that doesn't make any sense to me.  You will never get a product from eBay - not even eBay shipping or souvenir products. Everything is sourced elsewhere. 

Yes, literally it won't come from Ebay.  What is meant here is actually from an ebay seller.  The buyer made the choice to buy it from an Ebay seller as opposed to Amazon.  Buyer bought it ON ebay as opposed to ON Amazon, but found out later it really didn't matter.

[southern*sweet*tea]

**general reply**

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=13819201

Other Limitations

• We reserve the right to accept or refuse membership in our discretion.
• We may send you email and other communications related to Prime and your Prime membership (regardless of any settings or preferences related to your Amazon account).
• You may not transfer or assign your Prime membership or any Prime benefits, including promotion codes for Prime memberships or benefits, except as allowed in these terms.
• Prime members are not permitted to purchase products for the purpose of resale, rental, or to ship to their customers or potential customers using Prime benefits.
• Some Prime benefits may require certain purchase thresholds, have quantity or shipping address limitations, or require members to meet specified criteria in order to access them.
• From time to time, Amazon may choose in its sole discretion to add or remove Prime membership benefits.

[castlemagicmemories]

From a search for My Prime account was terminated for drop shipping:

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/amazon-prime-terminated-for-dropshipping.486175/

And Banned from Amazon for dropping/Prime

https://www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk/threads/banned-from-amazon-for-dropshipping.110956/

Termination by Us

We may terminate your Prime membership at our discretion without notice. If we do so, we will give you a prorated refund based on the number of full months remaining in your membership. However, we will not give any refund for termination related to conduct that we determine, in our discretion, violates these Terms or any applicable law, involves fraud or misuse of the Prime membership, or is harmful to our interests or another user. Our failure to insist upon or enforce your strict compliance with these Terms will not constitute a waiver of any of our rights.

[castlemagicmemories]

There are other articles, I just chose two and posted the links.

[gew6463]

Then it's strange that I had to sign I would not do so in my Prime agreement, as it stated it would be considered misuse of my free shipping, allowed only for Personal use, and gifts to family & friends (and my buyers are not my friends; just pushing that out of the way before someone gets creative). 

Perhaps you are okay with your Prime $ being spent this way; I am not. Monthly charge just went up $3. Of course, if it wasn't in the contract, that would be different.

I realize there are sellers doing this presently, and they may come up with a multitude of reasons why it is just fine (I am NOT saying it is anyone here in this thread; obviously I don't know how or why you disagree). I'm just saying that it is not as simple as "you got your item and so should be happy". Such as: returns can be problematic. And cancellations for out-of-stock can also occur. 

I also would not leave a negative feedback. Possibly a neutral, but most likely not unless I had a way to know for sure it was not a fulfillment account member (which I did bring up the possibility in my 1st comment). As Dog said, I would report it to  Amazon, and let them sort it out. 

[castlemagicmemories]

That was easy to do, IMO, focus on Amazon and not the Prime part.

[slippinjimmy]

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

Report them to amazon. They’re stealing services.

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I am not a Prime member, my orders from Amazon arrive in Prime packaging, and a gift receipt is an available option at checkout for anyone not just Prime members.

Oh yeah, I've never paid for shipping on Amazon so no reason (for me) to drop one penny on Prime.

[castlemagicmemories]

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@city*satins wrote:

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:
The deception was she bought it from Ebay and it came from Amazon, as a GIFT when it wasn't, the buyer paid for it. Seller pockets shipping as they had Amazon pay for it through misuse of their Prime account.

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Just to be clear....Prime accounts cost a monthly or annual fee, don't they?  So is a Prime account holder receiving 'free shipping'?  We say that ebay buyers aren't getting free shipping, because it's rolled into the cost of the item.  Is the same not true for Prime subscribers?  That the fee they pay covers shipping - whether they order 1 item or 100 it's not really free - the unit cost depends on the number of units?  Is that a valid parallel?  

Did the OP's seller offer free shipping or charge for it? Not sure if it's a fair question or just a red herring on my part but I ask because you mentioned the seller pocketing shipping.

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The Prime account is for personal use and they get free shipping.  BUT it was never intended by Amazon to be used for a seller to dropship for their business.

No, that isn't a valid parrallel because you are negating the basic premise.  Amazon themselves state that the Prime account is not for dropshipping.  Period.  It is abuse of the program.

Seller that do this charge the buyer shipping.  That's why they do it.  They make a profit on the item and on the shipping.

[gew6463]

No, because it is expressly forbidden to use it that way. Also, It has been in the news (just recently) that the way several people got caught doing this is because the River (particularly Prime) noticed that there were just too many 'gifts' going to too many addresses through this couple (A is suing them). I believe in the article A stated they will be monitoring those with a high volume of outgoing Prime ship-to addresses. I wish I could remember the news source, but I read a huge amount of news online, so can't recall now. Will add later if I find it. 

[eleanor*rigby]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

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With all due respect,  the OP got a gift notice with his order.  That indicates the seller is abusing his Prime account.

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As I stated in my message #12, items shipped via an FBA account may include a "gift receipt." So, the fact that there was a gift notice does not prove the item was sent with a personal Prime account. All the seller has to do, when processing the eBay sale, is mark that it is a gift.

Manage Gift Options

If you'd rather not click on an outside link, here's the upshot:

Manage Gift Options

If you have a Professional selling plan you can use Gift Options to offer gift-wrapping, gift messaging, or both to customers. These services can help increase your sales conversion rates by offering an enhanced buying experience.

Gift Options allows customers to indicate an order is a gift. By default, when customers indicate that an order is a gift, the product prices will not appear on the packing slip. However, customers can elect to include prices. The buyer's choices will show on the packing slip available in the Manage Orders page. If you create your own packing slips, you will need to manage the messaging and product price display.

[luckythewinner]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:
The deception was she bought it from Ebay and it came from Amazon, as a GIFT when it wasn't, the buyer paid for it. Seller pockets shipping as they had Amazon pay for it through misuse of their Prime account.

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That may be dishonest, and may be against Amazon rules, but it is not "deception".

Dropshipping is a common practice here. 

[eleanor*rigby]

Replying to myself, here. (LOL!)

My posts are based on the fact that the OP cannot prove the seller DID NOT use an Amazon business account. Until the OP can prove that the seller misused a personal Prime account, my posts stand.

If the OP can prove that the seller misused a personal Prime account, I will be in total agreement with those who think it's wrong to do so. I am a Prime member myself and would not appreciate someone misusing the service.

I'll wait to convict the OP's seller until I see proof, though.

[the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth]

And if they have a professional selling account then amazon will know about it. 

Thats is why I would not leave a bad feedback, although unlikely there is an alternate explanation

[castlemagicmemories]

Prime accounts have an annual fee.